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To: daniel1212
Well, it certainly is easy to see from where some Catholics get their screwy (pun) ideas about sex. No wonder the very idea that Mary and Joseph had normal marital relations after the birth of Jesus is so repugnant to them. Guys like Jerome, Augustine and Cyprian were instrumental in the development of the doctrine of Mary's ever-virgin status. Now we see how they got to there.
416 posted on 01/04/2012 9:46:23 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums

“Well, it certainly is easy to see from where some Catholics get their screwy (pun) ideas about sex. No wonder the very idea that Mary and Joseph had normal marital relations after the birth of Jesus is so repugnant to them. Guys like Jerome, Augustine and Cyprian were instrumental in the development of the doctrine of Mary’s ever-virgin status. Now we see how they got to there.”

Except for the fact that this is not what the Church teaches. The church explicitly teaches just the opposite. Augustine and Cyprian are wrong about the value of the body. The body is not in and of itself sinful.


419 posted on 01/04/2012 10:15:15 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: boatbums

Guys like Jerome, Augustine and Cyprian were instrumental in the development of the doctrine of Mary’s ever-virgin status

I find it rather contradictory in principal that Rome considers entering marriage with the intention of never having children to be a “grave wrong and more than likely grounds for an annulment.”[25], while praying to a women who went thru with a marriage apparently intending to do just that, according to Rome. And which is contrary to the “leave and cleave” description of marriage in Gn. 2:24 and personally confirmed by the Lord Jesus. (Mt. 19:5)

And He specified opposite genders as being what God joined, not as homosexual revisionists would have it.


427 posted on 01/05/2012 12:56:37 AM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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