Posted on 12/28/2011 5:47:17 PM PST by rzman21
Bingo.
It is short on theology or any meaningful dialogue and long on emotion.
>>Since when have the Evangelical Freepers been interested in having a meaningful dialogue of theology?
Mainline Protestant Freepers such as the conservative LCMS-type Lutherans are a different story. You can actually have an interesting, reasoned discussion with them.
But the Evangelical Freepers simply like saying:”You are Catholic, and you are going to Hell!” And then dismiss what you have to say out of hand without discussion.
How can you dialogue with a side that isn’t interested in dialog?
It is short on theology or any meaningful dialogue and long on emotion.
>>Since when have the Evangelical Freepers been interested in having a meaningful dialogue of theology?
Mainline Protestant Freepers such as the conservative LCMS-type Lutherans are a different story. You can actually have an interesting, reasoned discussion with them.
But the Evangelical Freepers simply like saying:”You are Catholic, and you are going to Hell!” And then dismiss what you have to say out of hand without discussion.
How can you dialog with a side that isn’t interested in dialog?
Amen, This trip in life and knowledge is never complete and no man will ever know everything. Continued challenge and learning are essentials to spiritual building. Keep it up, Great info and I am feeding.
That is it in a nutshell. To summarize the method you used, find the uneducated in the faith and confuse them.
The grace thing is the biggest one. One must first understand grace to understand salvation by grace. From Luther onward the meaning of Grace was obfuscated intentionally.
I believe in Jesus, what religion am I?
There are few here interested in dialogue on religion. They pretend to just to get something going and then launch into attack mode with MY Church believes this and you can’t prove that. I give verse and scripture and the result is “I don’t believe in Sola Scriptura” or something to that effect. Look at MarkBsnr s tagline for heavens sake. If that doesn’t tell you where this guy gets his Koolaid® from, nothing does. I tried to have a dialogue with OFOLOB and he is untruthful in saying I haven’t given him verses from the NT. He then accuses me repeatedly of looking at things with “Ellen White glasses” when I do not quote the woman, I don’t follow the woman and give her no more weight than the pope and repeatedly tell him so. He is intellectually dishonest.
You could be a Christian. Do you follow His example?
I believe in Jesus, what religion am I?
The grace thing is the biggest one. One must first understand grace to understand salvation by grace. From Luther onward the meaning of Grace was obfuscated intentionally.
>>The Protestant concept of grace actually has very little to do with the Bible. Read this thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2826044/posts
As a Protestant I would agree with the above sentiment (sans the "proud"). I was raised in a conservative denomination which, while not militantly "anti-Catholic", considered Catholics to be misled regarding some fundamental doctrines, notably "sola fida," "sola gratia," and "sola scriptura." I had the opportunity to do graduate study in Theology at a Jesuit-affiliated University. It was an eye-opening experience, and I gained a real appreciation for the Catholic Church. I no longer consider Catholics to be "misled" Christians.
My view is that so long as a person accepts the basic tenets of Christianity, i.e., accepting Jesus Christ as their Savior and worshipping him as the Divine Son of God, and trusting Him for salvation, then I will consider him/her to be a Christian brother or sister.
I do not wish to downplay the importance of having "right doctrine," but I believe that as long as the "fundamentals" are sound, that Christians should act with charity and a spirit of unity towards those with whom they disagree.
As hostility towards Christianity grows, it is increasingly vital that Christians not engage in "circular firing squads" towards each other, but rather support each other in common cause.
I believe in Jesus, what religion am I?
Thank you for that posting. I go to the religion threads for information and curiosity and I really shouldn’t be doing that at all. I need to stick to the Bible and leave others to whatever they wish to believe in, whether it’s the Flying Spaghetti Monster or something else.
My father hated the Catholic church because it was corrupt and tyrannical and intolerant. We’ve come a long ways since those days when he said that. People like you would set us back and turn us against each other all over again. I won’t have any part of it.
You should be more concerned about the latent corruption in your own church instead of bemoaning that turning protestant is apostasy.
I am an evangelical Freeper and I have never said or thought any such thing. What other untruths do you believe?
As hostility towards Christianity grows, it is increasingly vital that Christians not engage in “circular firing squads” towards each other, but rather support each other in common cause.
>>I agree as long as we are intellectually honest and agree to disagree agreeably.
My late friend, Paul Weyrich, lived this.
We can’t engage in a 1960s-vintage kumbayah routine. It has abjectly failed to the Catholic Church’s detriment.
Evangelicals have played nice with Catholics over the past 40 years over the culture wars, while stealing sheep from the Catholic Church at the same time.
They can’t say “peace, peace” on one side while waging war on Catholicism in the other.
The daily anti-Mormon diatribes on FR are another good example. Mormonism has some really kooky doctrines, but the Mormon Church has been a fighter for family values for all Americans against gay rights, abortion, etc.
Thats a complex article for this hour of the evening....
But yes you and I are in agreement on your statement of the new concept of grace having little to do with scripture.
Perhaps you personally haven’t, but there are quite a few on these boards who do.
If you don’t fit the description I gave, then what I wrote wasn’t directed at you.
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