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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear
Funny how they always contradict themselves when they start thier little game of, "that's what Scripture says, but that's not what it means". They truly are examples of Fractal Wrongness.

When you get done laughing, can you please give us an answer about those two verses in I Peter about the "Priesthood of the believers"? Could this possibly be one of your own "that's what Scripture says, but that's not what it means" reinterpretation dealies?

I know I've asked you this at least three or four times now whenever you bring up your diatribe about "Protestants" committing the "sin of Core" by teaching the "heresy of the Priesthood of all believers", but either you can't or won't explain why that doctrine is from Peter, himself. Which is it?

592 posted on 01/01/2012 11:11:50 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
The heresy of Core? Everyone can read the appropriate chapter in Numbers and see that Jude is warning against exactly what the Self Worshipers pretend is the proper interpretation of His Word. Like it or not, there is a legtimate priesthood appointed over believers according to the authority delegated to the Apostles by Christ. God the Father Himself struck Core and his followers down for claiming that such a priesthood was not valid when Moses appointed them and Jude warns us not to make the same mistake by claiming that the Apostles have no right to appoint such a priesthood. It's clear, under the New Covenant there are those who are appointed to be our shepherds and the Bible clearly says we are to obey them and follow them. It also specifies a different and higher standard for bringing accusations against them, something that makes it still more clear that they are somewhat set apart from the sheep as the shepherd always is.

Twisting Scripture and the understanding of Scripture? What about the word, "adoration", for example, that had no association whatsoever with worship until long, long, after even the KJV of the Bible was translated? Somehow when those who define themselves as anti-Catholic first and Christian a distant second want to tell their lies they claim adoration is the same as worship and apply Scripture related to worship as they wish. Is it just fine to pick the recent one hundred year old definition for "adoration" or would honest Christians admit that unless you go with that recent definition there's no worship involved when people pray to Mary? Where in Scriptures does it instruct the reader when to pick one word from a sentence and use a definition from two thousand years ago, but that the next word should use a definition that has only been added to a word a hundred years ago? Is that done based purely at the discretion of the party recounting comic strip yarns or is there a separate decoder ring similar to the decoder ring that goes along with the Escape & Evasion fantasy? And what about the special decoder ring that shows it's fine to call Christ Himself a liar or to say that Christ incarnate was so stupid He could not say what He meant? Is that a third decoder ring, or is there in a "Self-Alone Heresy Slide Rule' with multiple functions available for $10.99 and twenty box tops from boxes of YOPIOS?

The only people who are twisting anything are the same ones who migrate which time frame they use for their definitions depending on what they have already decided the Scriptures should say rather than ever bothering to even try and understand what Scriptures do say. Such folks always twist everything to fit into their own personal religion of Self. There's no need to answer or debate things that have been clearly understood, defined, and taught for thousands of years. Only those who are trying to spin their own new heresy or convince others to go along with an old heresy pretend that the Truth hasn't been known ever since Christ built His Church on the Apostles thousands of years ago. Unless someone is calling Christ and the Holy Spirit both liars by saying they could not keep the Truth intact and Wycliffe and the other heretics did what Christ and the Holy Spirit couldn't do, there is nothing to debate that isn't settled and easily understood by those who are seeking the Truth. Only those who are seeking entertainment and self-gratification refuse to accept what the Scripture clearly says and intead preach their substitutions, distortions, and reinterpretations to others in hopes of getting a few postive strokes for vastly inflated ego.

The "Sola Yourselfa" crew can pretend to have some valid approach to interpretation all they like but such folks are only fooling themselves. They have no consistent approach to Scripture other than consistently twisting Scripture to fit their own preconceived religion of Self. It is interesting to watch the Self Alone crowd make fools of themselves by contradicting themselves and begging others to disobey the Scriptures by tossing them pearls they can then mutilate and deface. Such folks are obviously given over to a reprobate mind and cannot understand the Scriptures and never will understand the Scriptures until they surrender to Christ, take up their cross, and follow Christ rather than their own pride.

609 posted on 01/02/2012 10:48:08 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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