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To: CynicalBear; narses
Heb 13:24 Salute all your prelates and all the saints. The brethren from Italy salute you.

As in, a distinct group set apart from the entire congregation who collectively are known as saints.

So now the "Sola Yourselfa" crowd claims to have studied the origins of the word "prelates" and have discovered that it came from cavemen who used it to mean, "pebble".

That's a somewhat interesting variation of, "that's what the Scriptures say, but that's not what they mean", but it's still exactly the same refusal to accept what the Bible clearly says. It's just another variation of the same dodge that those who claim to believe in the "clear meaning of Scriptures" use as they attempt to twist and torture Scriptures to fit into their own personal interpretation of Scriptures.

558 posted on 01/01/2012 4:09:35 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear

Only ONE version uses *prelates* and it’s the Douay-Rheims Bible. The rest say *leaders*.

http://bible.cc/hebrews/13-24.htm

In the Greek, the word is.....

hégeomai: to lead, suppose


562 posted on 01/01/2012 4:27:44 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Rashputin

How else can they all get along? Every sect is right, the Seventh Day dudes, the Christmas is Pagan dudes, the God the Mother dudettes - all of them in agreement - that Our Lord did NOT establish One Church, that Our Lord did NOT appoint Apostles and through them their successors. How else?


564 posted on 01/01/2012 4:38:17 PM PST by narses
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To: Rashputin
>>As in, a distinct group set apart from the entire congregation<<

Who, in scripture, are referred to as bishops or elders.

Bishop – episkopos
1. an overseer
a. a man charged with the duty of seeing that things to be done by others are done rightly, any curator, guardian or superintendent
b. the superintendent, elder, or overseer of a Christian church
(http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=1985)

Elder – meizōn
1. greater, larger, elder, stronger

Priest – hiereus
Never used of church leadership in the New Testament.

565 posted on 01/01/2012 4:44:25 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Rashputin
So now the "Sola Yourselfa" crowd claims to have studied the origins of the word "prelates" and have discovered that it came from cavemen who used it to mean, "pebble".

Doesn't the Church of the Y Generation interpret it as XBox?

645 posted on 01/02/2012 6:23:04 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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