No, Quix:
I didn’t ask you to take a bunch of out-of-context quotes which you take to be prayers to a goddess or Asheroth. You’ll notice there’s not a reference to goddess or Asheroth in the whole bunch. There’s some quotes which in your ignorance you judge to be prayers to a goddess or Ashaeroth, I suppose. But then, that’s your problem. You presume the voices in your head are reality.
Actually, in a strange way, you demonstrate the precise meaning of Revelations 12. Mary is progenitor and archetype of the Church. What the Church accomplishes by bringing Christ into the hearts of each individual it reveals Christ to, Mary accomplished by bringing Christ into the world. Every marvelous utterance directed at Mary is really an instruction of what the Church is to be, to those who constitute the Church, who are those who declare such utterances.
Each of these wondrous statements is directed to the Catholic reader who understands Christ to be ultimate and primary source of all things, not as an apologetic to the Protestant about the role of Mary.
Isn’t Mary the Queen of Heaven, of Rev. 12? Was there some other sign given, where some other woman gave birth to some other Christ? Yet at the same time, the purpose of Rev. 12 is not merely to glorify Mary, but to, by analogy, use her as an archetype for the Church as a whole.
But in your fevered imagination, you see not the mother of Christ, but Asheroth, which is so very, very sad.
Welllllllllll,
quite candidly . . .
when I finished reading your post, the thought that came to mind was . . .
THAT SOUNDS JUST LIKE
a Muslim wailing that the 109+ verses in the Koran exhorting faithful Muslims to massacre etc. non-Muslims are
“taken out of context.”
Which is a farcical pile of nonsense.
They are WORSE when put in the historical context involved and they are plenty evil as listed in the Koran.
Ditto Ferraro’s quotes.
Ditto the Pope’s paragraphs above.
WORDS EITHER MEAN SOMETHING INTELLIGIBLE
OR THEY DON’T.
Y’all insist that they don’t . . . except what y’all’s very rubbery DAFFYNITIONARY
decrees moment by changeable moment.
Impressive.
NOT.
If Revelation 12 is speaking of Mary, then how do you get around the part that speaks of her in verse 2 "She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth."? Remember in Genesis 3:16 when God told Eve because of sin, I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children."? So, if this Revelation verse is speaking of Mary, then she cried out in pain while giving birth and it meant she had the sin nature passed on from Eve. Yet, Roman Catholic teaching says Mary did not have a sin nature nor any pain birthing Jesus and she remarkably even remained a virgin. So which is it? Revelation 12 CANNOT be speaking about Mary. It can ONLY be Israel, who is persecuted during the last half of the Tribulation. No other way fits.