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To: CynicalBear
This is quite impossible. Jesus Christ is the God-Man. Mary is a human person. Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World. Mary is among those He saved. Jesus Christ is one with the Creator: "All things were created through Himn; all things were created for Him." Mary is a creature.

Anyone who denies any of that, denies the Catholic faith.

What part of that don't you accept? You seem to be inadvertently misinterpreting statements you don't quite understand.

157 posted on 12/28/2011 5:02:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dry understatements free of charge, one per customer until supplies are exhausted.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If you fail to wrap your understanding about the idolatries and blasphemies I highlighted in the Pope’s paragraphs above . . . then we are evidently not dealing with the same English I’ve used all my life.

I realize that wholesale bias can be quite blinding.

However, I’ve usually thought of you as a bit above that tendency.

The Pope’s paragraphs were hideous in terms of idolatry and blasphemy.

There’s no amount of weasel worded rationalizations that will excuse them before God Almighty . . . nor even before the AUTHENTIC Mary.


158 posted on 12/28/2011 5:07:08 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>> What part of that don't you accept? You seem to be inadvertently misinterpreting statements you don't quite understand.<<

“Don’t quite understand”? How about we compare the prayer of the Pope to scripture.

I’ll use just the bolded excerpts from the prayer.

we cast ourselves into your arms

1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (When did we need to replace God with Mary?)

confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.

Hebrews 4:15-16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (once again Catholics replacing Christ with Mary)

O crystal fountain of faith

Romans 12:3 according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. or "a measure of faith." (but Mary is the “fountain of faith” for Catholics)

Lily of all holiness

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. (for Catholics however, “all holiness” is given to Mary)

Conqueress of evil and death

Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (but Catholics claim it was Mary who conquered death)

Convert the wicked

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; (Catholics have even replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary)

Statement by catholic Bishop Liqouri “.......We often more quickly obtain what we ask by calling on the name of Mary than by invoking that of Jesus.....” She...is our Salvation, our Life, our Hope, our Counsel, our Refuge, our Help”

Need I go on? Catholics have replaced virtually every attribute and working of God and given that to Mary in their worship.

163 posted on 12/28/2011 5:16:23 PM PST by CynicalBear
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