[Lera]

Messianics are neither Jewish nor Christian. Messianics are neither fish nor fowl. http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/

So by your account Jesus and his Apostles were neither Christians or Jews .

Messianics keep Torah just as their Messiah did but they know that keeping Torah is not what saves them , they do it because they love HIM . They know that it is HIS sacrifice that saves them which is more than I can say for some people who claim to follow Christ who include all sorts of paganism in their worship and don't even know that the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob is not the same as allah .


Jesus own words ....

Mathew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

In HIS own words HE told his own very Jewish disciples to do everything the Pharisees told them to do when they sit in Moses' seat . Care to take a guess at what was read when they sat on Moses's seat ? TORAH .
the not after their own works part is all the traditions they added to the Scriptures (maybe you should pay attention to that cause your church sure has added a lot of traditions to those Scriptures and it gets harder and harder to see anything Christian in when it is so cloaked with paganism).
How did Catholics treat them (notice I said Catholics and not Christians ) for doing exactly as Jesus said ? They called them heretics and even had some of them put to do death . How do Catholics treat them now , they curse at them and say they are not followers of Christ (kinda like you just did ) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder if that is why middle eastern Catholics have been so cursed themselves ? and now they are so confused that they don't even know the difference between God and allah

[rzman21]

How did Catholics treat them (notice I said Catholics and not Christians ) for doing exactly as Jesus said ? They called them heretics and even had some of them put to do death . How do Catholics treat them now , they curse at them and say they are not followers of Christ (kinda like you just did ) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder if that is why middle eastern Catholics have been so cursed themselves ?

>>Catholic means universal. I’m not going to apologize for what some Western Christians did during the Middle Ages.

I’m not a Western Christian. Anti-Catholic bigots always ignore the fact John Paul II made an atonement for the sins of the past in 2000. They are all stuck in the past.

The modern Messianics have nothing in common with Jesus and his apostles. Their theology is a heretical mixture of Evangelical Protestantism and warmed over Rabinnical Judaism, which differs vastly from the Judaism of Jesus’s time.

Do you follow the Septuagint? The apostles did. All of the OT quotes in the New Testament are taken from the Septuagint version, not from the flawed Rabinnical Massoretic text.

Middle Eastern Catholics cursed. That’s a new one. They have far more in common with apostolic Christianity than Messianic Judaizers.

Your sect is neither Christian nor Jewish. It’s sort of in a no-man’s land between the two.