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To: D-fendr

I realize that Catholics put the church between themselves and Christ and that’s a shame. Christ saves individuals, not churches. The RCC has become no more than a cult.


82 posted on 12/22/2011 4:03:48 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Church between Christ? No, we see it more like Church as hospital, Christ as the master physician/healer, the sickness is sin. And the “patients” help each other as well, as we seen in the Church in Holy Scripture. Another analogy is a family.

It’s quite a different concept than a collection of individuals by category. One that really results in a Church.

I’m curious how your view works. If the Church is “simply a collection of individuals who have been saved”, then:

- How is that different than, say, a category of left handed males between the age of 55 and 60? I mean this is a category, a defined collection, but there’s no relationship here. Is there no relationship between those in your view of ‘church’?

- Do they know each other and meet together? If so, are only those who are saved allowed in order to meet the collection requirements? How is this determined, does each self-selects themselves as “saved”? Can you object to their selection?

- In practice do you regularly attend this church or know anyone who does? I’m not trying to get personal, but wondering if you actually meet with a group from this collection of individuals you describe as ‘church’ or with something else.


83 posted on 12/22/2011 5:14:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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CynicalBear wrote:
I realize that Catholics put the church between themselves and Christ and that’s a shame. Christ saves individuals, not churches. The RCC has become no more than a cult.
Really? Is it JUST those cultist Catholic types or do other denominations do that as well? The Orthodox? The Lutheran? The Baptist? Hmmmm?
87 posted on 12/22/2011 6:19:23 PM PST by narses
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