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Not until the Reformation was competition introduced, forcing the Church to return to piety, as various Protestant sects emerged, and energized Christianity in the process.

BS. Much of the ‘reformation’ was to seize Church lands, resources and power.

We know from Scripture that the basic premise of “Protestantism” cannot be true:

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20

Fortunately, we have Christ’s promise that heresies will never prevail against the Church. They will arise, endure sometimes for centuries, like Protestantism, but we can be confident in Christ’s promise that the Church He established will always teach the Truth.

The Church is to be one, not many.

“I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 1Cor 1:10-17

You could easily read the above as “One of you says, "I follow Luther"; another, "I follow Calvin"; another, "I follow Wesley"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Christians cannot be “perfectly united in mind and thought” when they have different beliefs on, say, the necessity of water baptism, while others believe “This is my Body” means “This is a cookie”

6 posted on 12/20/2011 9:09:04 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

“You could easily read the above as “One of you says, “I follow Luther”; another, “I follow Calvin”; another, “I follow Wesley”; still another, “I follow Christ.” “

You could, but that would be changing the meaning of what Paul wrote.
It is Christ. It is never a man. It is never a sect.

There is one Savior. One universal Church Triumphant. One Body of Christ.
One faith. One Lord. One Baptism.

The Body of Christ is comprised of all who receive His Gospel of Grace
throughout history. The gates of Hell will not prevail against this
Church.

I follow Christ.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 9:31:26 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: FatherofFive; SeekAndFind
BS. Much of the ‘reformation’ was to seize Church lands, resources and power.

Oh? And just where in Scripture is the justification for the *church* to own land?

We're not to follow Peter either.

29 posted on 12/20/2011 1:09:18 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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