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To: RnMomof7

Pope John Paul II may have been infallible, but he was not inerrant or impeccable. That scene represents a severe mistake, like the Assissi conference.

But Islam is a syncretism between Christianity and various pagan religions, but they do actually believe that the God they pray to is the God of Abraham, the one God, no matter how perverted and adulterated their understanding of Him is.

That Allah is somehow a moon god is a bunch of nonsense; the Christians of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Arabia used the name Allah centuries before Mohammed syncretized the god of Abraham with that damned meteorite. Even Mizrahi Jews call God, Allah. The name means “The God,” with the article (”the”) indicating that there is no other god.

With tens of millions of Catholic Christians living with Islamic swords hanging over their head, the Catholic pope is not free to act with the belligerence that many Protestants do. In an effort to make peace, John Paul II has made regrettable overtures, but when he teaches that the Jews, Muslims and Catholics believe in the same God, he is correct. When Benedict XVI says that the Muslims created no good thing, he is also correct. Whatever good or true Muslims know of, they know of through the Christians they have slayed and conquered. But that God they have learned of is, no matter how badly perverted their image of him is, the same God.


27 posted on 12/12/2011 7:59:28 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
"...Islam is a syncretism between Christianity and various pagan religions, but they do actually believe that the God they pray to is the God of Abraham, the one God, no matter how perverted and adulterated their understanding of Him is.

Good point. On a related note, if you will allow, I have no doubt many Mohammedans do seek for truth. Much of what the gentler souls among them find beautiful and "right" about what they encounter in their own teachings, seems to me to be those things which were borrowed from Judaism, and Christianity.

With tens of millions of Catholic Christians living with Islamic swords hanging over their head the Catholic pope is not free to act with the belligerence that many Protestants do.

Even a better point IMO.

Christians of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Arabia used the name Allah centuries before Mohammed syncretized the god of Abraham with that damned meteorite.

Hmmm, Not that I'm saying you are wrong--- but I was under the impression that "Allah" was one of many "gods" followed after by pan-theists in the Arabian peninsula prior and up to mad Mo's day...
Again, not to be argumentative (for you may very well be correct), but would you have trustworthy sources for this last comment which I highlighted?

36 posted on 12/12/2011 8:34:25 PM PST by 7MMmag (Five cents, please...)
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To: dangus
Yes, the word Allah does mean God and they would like to think that their god is The God of Abraham but that does not make it so. If I said you are my friend and that you have long black hair down to your knees, are missing an arm and live in Tasmania it would not mean that you are my friend, but rather actually prove that you are not, for my description of who you are is all wrong. It would also mean that you are not my friend because I obviously do not know who you are but have you confused with someone or something else. Because I call you my "friend" would not prove anything at all.

The god that the Muslims call god, or Allah, is not described at all in the same way The Christian, Jewish God is and therefore is not our God whether they call it god or not does not make the difference. It is rather if what they call god is in essence God. In essence their god is Satan.

As the verse below shows you, just because someone calls themselves or others call someone Christ does not make it so. The same principle holds with the Muslims calling their supposed god, Allah. The name Allah is not what makes one The Almighty God. Also in the Bible God is referred to as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob repeatedly, not just as the God of Abraham alone. This is for the reason of properly distinguishing The True and Living God for who He really is.

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Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

53 posted on 12/12/2011 9:07:24 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: dangus
With tens of millions of Catholic Christians living with Islamic swords hanging over their head, the Catholic pope is not free to act with the belligerence (boldness of the gospel of Christ Jesus) that many Protestants do. In an effort to make peace,...

You might want to read what God's Word says about that, which is quite the opposite:

Matthew 10: The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household! “So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Your words show that the institution that you defend wants to make lasting wordly peace between people. The gospel of Jesus is about making eternal peace between individuals and the one TRUE God, who is NOT the god of Islam. The former can NEVER occur without the latter.

112 posted on 12/13/2011 4:58:04 AM PST by lupie
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