Calvinism's Similarities to Islam

http://www.freewill-predestination.com/islam.html ^ | David Bennett

[SeaHawkFan]

Calvin wouldn’t be leading any charges; he’d get someone else to do it for him just like he did we he orchestrated the murder of Servitus.

[rzman21]

And at Christmastime. How Christian of you.
>>Does your version of Christianity checks reason at the door?

Come home to the fullness of Christianity found in Christ’s Catholic Church.

[rzman21]

And at Christmastime. How Christian of you.
>>Does your version of Christianity check reason at the door?

Come home to the fullness of Christianity found in Christ’s Catholic Church.

[rzman21]

And at Christmastime. How Christian of you.
>>Does your version of Christianity check reason at the door?

Come home to the fullness of Christianity found in Christ’s Catholic Church.

[xzins]

Dear Relig Mod,

I please ask that you pull this thread. For many years, I have established myself on the Religion Forum as a non-calvinistic freeper.

However, when the rules of the new religion forum were established, and then when enhanced at the coming of a new mod half a decade ago or more, there was an insistence that an article title could NOT be an attack on another group....that it’s very wording be sure to start a flame war.

This article is such an article. Suggesting that Calvinism is hateful, fanatical islam does a disservice to the Reformation’s great history, but more importantly to the rules of this forum, it will cause a flame war for no other reason that to cause a flame war.

I could post an article entitled “The Pope is the AntiChrist” and I think we’d get the same result. (Although I don’t believe that.)

Perhaps my point is lost in the dimness of the past, and that the insistence that a thread not be designed to cause a flame war is lost in that same past. Nonetheless, it is so, and those rules were for sound reasons.

[xzins]

Dear Relig Mod,

I please ask that you pull this thread. For many years, I have established myself on the Religion Forum as a non-calvinistic freeper.

However, when the rules of the new religion forum were established, and then when enhanced at the coming of a new mod half a decade ago or more, there was an insistence that an article title could NOT be an attack on another group....that it’s very wording be sure to start a flame war.

This article is such an article. Suggesting that Calvinism is hateful, fanatical islam does a disservice to the Reformation’s great history, but more importantly to the rules of this forum, it will cause a flame war for no other reason that to cause a flame war.

I could post an article entitled “The Pope is the AntiChrist” and I think we’d get the same result. (Although I don’t believe that.)

Perhaps my point is lost in the dimness of the past, and that the insistence that a thread not be designed to cause a flame war is lost in that same past. Nonetheless, it is so, and those rules were for sound reasons.

[xzins]

There are VAST differences, but look at where Geneva was starting to head even in the time of Calvin. There were some who wanted to dump the Trinity already.

So, using the same logic, if I can find a group of Catholics in history who were ready to dump the trinity, then I have effectively defeated the argument for Catholicism?

Is that correct?

[D-fendr]

Thanks very much for your reply.

The point about Ecumenical threads is most excellent. I’m going to remember it an hope others do as well. It’s worth a try.

thanks.

[CynicalBear]

>>Constantinople and Nicea declared the divinity of Christ and the Most Holy Trinity.<<

They declared the divinity of Christ? The utter blasphemy of that statement astounds me. The arrogance is beyond anything I’ve ever seen. As if somehow Christ was not divine prior to some carnal organization declaring it and needed authentication from them. The audacity is striking to say the least.

>>No one had yet clearly explained what it means to say that the union of God in humanity brings immortality and glory to human nature.<<

Is there no end to the arrogance? You’re trying to make us believe that for the millennia prior to Constantinople no one knew or understood and somehow out of some revelation that no one prior had experienced they, the enlightened ones, could now officially declare that indeed Christ was who He said He was? How completely and totally preposterous.

>>In this context we have Iranaeus’ maxim in the second century and Athanasius reiteration in the fourth.<<

Well, I would just say that you should then put your trust in those in whom your faith resides. Keep your holy beads close and your statues in site. Venerate your relics and repeat your chants. Faithfully repeat your rituals and sacrifices. Make your weekly visit to your confessor and hope for the best.

I’ll put my trust in Christ who secured once and for all my redemption.

[netmilsmom]

>>Come home to the fullness of Christianity found in Christ’s Catholic Church.<<

You’re a newbie troublemaker. You give Catholics a bad name and personally I don’t think you are Catholic at all.

And some research into who you are talking to is something that FReepers who are experienced, know to do.
I’m Catholic and it clearly says it on my homepage.

[netmilsmom]

THANK YOU!!!!

This is a horrible thread. Christian against Christian.
What has FR come to?

[ravenwolf]

I hardly know any thing about Calvin at all but i have heard of these kind of punishments,if that is what Calvin believed in then i would agree that it is comparable to Islam.

So what it amounts to is that i do not believe in the papal power and i do not agree with things Calvin believed in and did so what do i believe in? only the Bible, and i will believe in it according to my understanding which i perceive to be using common sense in rightly dividing the word of God.

No doubt many people would not call many of my views common sense at all but it is my trip to heaven or hell, though i don,t know what either one of them are for sure, but at any rate i am not going to leave it to Paul, Calvin, or to the Protestant or catholic churches, Jesus has gave us the truth to set us free from all of this and he has given us the way to God which is through him alone.

Cutting off peoples limbs, Selling salvation or forgiving people in the name of God, how many abominations will God put up with?

I really believe many of the things in our history was foretold in Rev. so although people can get to love their Church they should put Jesus,s words first.

[AnalogReigns]

Hmmmm, perhaps someone should do a paper on how Arminian theology is similar to Agnosticism or Atheism?