[johngrace]

Hi Boatbums- William Webster quotes the Early Fathers without the original verses being in his document on most cases. If he does it is out of context. He goes to a book. Instead of original documents writings.

[boatbums]

I realize that because Webster is a former Roman Catholics that his writings are suspect, but I do think he proves his points. Obviously, he is not the only Christian writer who holds these same views. This site also quotes many of those church fathers http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Ancients_on_Eucharist.html#Presence

and this site http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/04/wobbly-evolution-of-romes-doctrine-of.html.

Thanks for the discussion. Have a good night.