Posted on 12/02/2011 12:29:22 PM PST by Alex Murphy
That part of your statement is remarkably consistent with the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. You may wish to rethink it, as I know you have no desire to agree with Catholics on anything.
she was a vessel just like all others...
Funny how God would simply choose some random person, full of sin (in your opinion), as the vessel to hold His Incarnate Self when He took such care to define an especially precious vessel in the Old Testament (the Ark of the Covenant) (Ex 25), a mere shadow of what was to be (Heb 8:5).
all have sinned all are in need of salvation no one except the Christ was born as the spotless lamb. The church has made up a fairy tale of sinless mother who was transported to heaven. Sound just like Mohamed of islam. Christ rebuked His mother for not knowing the plan of God just as Paul rebuked Peter for being a hypocrite.
OK, and I guess the Church surreptitiously inserted the following into the Scriptures: καὶ εἰσελθὼν ὁ ἄγγελος πρὸς αὐτὴν εἶπεν Χαῖρε κεχαριτωμένη ὁ κύριος μετὰ σοῦ εὐλογημένη σὺ ἐν γυναιξίν
Translation: And the angel came in to her and said, Hail, thou who was previously graced, the Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women.
And it's funny that when the Church had that horrible verse inserted, they used the word κεχαριτωμένη (stem: χαριτόω, verb form of the word: χάρις -- grace), they selected a word that was used only ONCE elsewhere in the entire New Testament. In this verse: εἰς ἔπαινον δόξης τῆς χάριτος αὐτοῦ ἐν ᾗ ἐχαρίτωσεν ἡμᾶς ἐν τῷ ἠγαπημένῳ (To the praise of the glory of his grace in that he graced us in his love). In other words: in Ephesians 1:6.
And it's funny that the Church, when it surreptitiously inserted that verse into Luke, decided to use the perfect tense, which describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated. Compared to how St Paul wrote it in Ephesians, using the Aorist tense, which describes an action without regard to time.
I'm sure they inserted this forged verse in there so that it would correspond exactly to the exact definition of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception: the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin
Of course, since the Catholics just invented this doctrine out of whole cloth in 1849, it must have been quite the task to change every single copy of the Greek New Testament, as well as every vernacular translation in the world, to reflect the change. Of course, Pius IX, using the secret super computer located in the basement of the Vatican, could instantaneously change all of those Catholic Bibles out there. But maybe you could help with this: do you know how much he had to pay off each and every Protestant scripture scholar to allow that verse to be added to their Bibles and their Greek texts? Must have been a whole lot of money.
Seriously, I sort of envy you. It must be very comforting to have a faith so strong and pure that you won't even let Sacred Scripture stand in its way.
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