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To: CynicalBear

No Peter made the final decision in Jerusalem. The assembly fell silent after he spoke. James spoke after Peter about some specifics, just as lawyers speak after CEOs make decisions.

Why weren’t the successors of Paul or James made popes if they held authority?

When I speak of the early church I am referring to non-biblical accounts made by historians in the the first century or so after our Lord died and rose again. Check those sources. Like the Didache.


116 posted on 12/01/2011 9:15:51 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp
>> No Peter made the final decision in Jerusalem. The assembly fell silent after he spoke. James spoke after Peter about some specifics, just as lawyers speak after CEOs make decisions.<<

Oh give me a break. James said my sentence is. He did not say the “the dicision of the council” or anything like that.

Acts 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. 13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

117 posted on 12/01/2011 9:20:36 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: impimp
St Augustine on Supreme Bishop or Pope. Letter 53 (A.D. 400)

For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: "Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!"

The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: -- Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius..

120 posted on 12/02/2011 1:27:48 AM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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