Posted on 11/30/2011 5:18:31 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
“Catholics wear small cloth pictures called Scapulars as well.”
I think that is totally cool and I have no idea why anyone would want to make fun of Catholics, Jews or Mormons for our various religious practices.
I didn’t know that Jews wore holy undergarments until I heard Senator Joe Lieberman talk about that at BYU recently.
Thank you for sharing.
You know, that was my first thought when I was reading this as well. While I wouldn't call the Jewish garment ("Tzizit") "underwear," it IS a garment that is worn by religious Jews under their shirt. It does not have to be in direct contact with the skin (i.e. it's alright to wear this over an undershirt). It's a simple garment, with the same "fringes" that are found on the Jewish "Talit."
Mark
—By posting this article, I was hoping to thwart some of the bigotry, ignorance and silliness.—
What you don’t understand, Sandra, is that a lot of us are not coming from a position of ignorance. I see nothing in that article that I did not know 25 years ago. That is one of many reasons I am NOT a mormon.
Thing is, we don’t disagree with you because we are ignorant. We disagree with you because we think your religion is a false teaching.
Here’s the article about Senator Joe Lieberman addressing BYU students recently where I learned for the first time that Jews wear special undergarments:
http://news.byu.edu/archive11-oct-liebermantalk.aspx
—...I have no idea why anyone would want to make fun of Catholics, Jews or Mormons for our various religious practices.—
I’m with you. But I am focusing on the words “make fun of”. Calling out the error in the practices and their core purpose is more than appropriate. It is scriptural. It is the type of thing Jesus and the apostles did. It is a part of what the Great Commission is.
—...I have no idea why anyone would want to make fun of Catholics, Jews or Mormons for our various religious practices.—
I’m with you. But I am focusing on the words “make fun of”. Calling out the error in the practices and their core purpose is more than appropriate. It is scriptural. It is the type of thing Jesus and the apostles did. It is a part of what the Great Commission is.
I forgot to add, I do it with my own church. I did it with that silly powder blue Christian flag and its “pledge of allegence”.
Thank you for Post 23. I first learned of the Jewish undergarment when I watched Senator Joe Lieberman as he addressed BYU recently.
>>I think that is totally cool and I have no idea why anyone would want to make fun of Catholics, Jews or Mormons for our various religious practices.<<
If you are standing next to me, fighting the good fight for the welfare of our society, why would I care what kind of cloth you are wearing? If it means something to you, it’s cool with me.
>>Yeah, they also believe that Mary was perfect and died a virgin...<<
And this effects you because...?
—And this effects you because...?—
Where did I say it does?
Just for some prospective Sandra, I am not a believer so I find some of the customs of many if not all religions somewhat strange and curious and I was raised Catholic ; ), OTOH, I have had over the years, friends and co-workers who are of many different religious faiths including some Mormons. I honestly dont get rabid hostility here toward Mormons. In my experience Ive found them to be honest, hard working, conservative and very kind. Ive also found that to be the case with some Buddhists, Jews, Baptists, Church of the Bretherns, etc. that Ive known in my 50 years on this Earth, and even, if I dare even say it here, even a few Muslims!
One of the reasons I became an Atheist was seeing the constant bickering among religious people about who was absolutely right and who was absolutely wrong. So I long ago came to the conclusion that either they are all right or none of them are right. Perhaps that makes me more of an agnostic then as I have no problem with what a person chooses to believe in or what God or Gods they choose to pray to as long as they dont try to force me to believe as they do. Live and Let Live.
....Devout Mormons further understand that in only a very few instances might the garment be removed, such as for swimming, using the bathroom, or being intimate in marriage. The reasons for keeping the garment on far outweigh the reasons for taking it off....
For more information visit Mormon Underwear.
Or these related threads:
The Sacred Garment of Mormon Theology
Rick Majerus: Is Nothing Sacred? Not Even Underwear?!
—And this effects you because...?—
Where did I say it does?
I was merely pointing out that there are other goofy, unsupported religious beliefs out there. We should all scrutinize what we hear from the pulpit at our own churches. I actually got my church to remove that “Christian flag” and the pledge. I’m sure whoever came up with it was well-meaning, but it had no place in our worship service.
“It is the type of thing Jesus and the apostles did.”
It was the Pharisees who made fun of Jesus and the Apostles. Jesus is my Savior; He would never make fun of me, nor would He ridicule and insult my Faith in Him. He said either we are for Him or against Him and we Mormons are surely FOR Him. He is our Savior, Redeemer, and Soon Coming King. I am looking forward to the Second Coming with all my heart. I am looking forward to the day when I can worship Him without interference from any vicious hateful mob.
The purpose for my posting this article was to try to enlighten FReepers and help with understanding why we are hurt and offended when stupid people make fun of our undergarments. Sheesh already.
>>I was merely pointing out that there are other goofy, unsupported religious beliefs out there<<
Well, we are all allowed our opinion. Thanks.
Everything you posted in #20 is the same twisted suit-your-own-agenda stuff that has been rehashed and rehashed thousands of times here on FR.
Don’t you guys ever get tired of it?
Underwear vs. outerwear.
Possibly, because the term ‘underwear’ in the modern vernacular reminds us of ‘boxers or briefs’. The point at which respect for the office of President was diminished forever.
I see nothing strange about white undergarments as a religious practice for lay people - inasmuch as Catholic nuns and parochial schools require certain ‘uniforms’.
Jewish Rabbis and Catholic clergy have religious garments which differ only in degree of design and decoration. A statement of belonging.
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