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To: betty boop
The Pope(s) clearly endorsed Darwin's theory of evolution and said there was no conflict with faith in belief that man's body developed through evolution from ‘pre existing living matter’ - so long as one accepts that God is in control and imparts an immortal soul into each human being.

Do you think God has no power over random processes? That HIS power stops at the casino door?

The Bible says that every dice roll (or casting of lots) is determined by God. Why would “random” genetic mutations be any different?

380 posted on 12/09/2011 10:56:42 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream; metmom

Very simply, rolling the dice or casting lots does not increase [nor decrease for that matter] information. Even to decrease information in computer code takes intelligence, time, trial and error in order to still have working code.

You don’t have to spend much time programming a computer to begin to understand that introducing random changes will very quickly break the code [rather than increase it’s usefulness]. Breaking the code would compare favorably with death, and population extinctions.

On the other hand it takes a lot of thought and trial and error to add wholly new features and abilities to any system of code.

For someone so pompous you surely do miss the obvious time after time.


383 posted on 12/09/2011 12:04:19 PM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: allmendream; metmom

Furthermore God is not random and the quote you referred to from the Bible says ‘Man casts lots and God controls the outcome.’ From that context one should deduce God controls things - there’s no room for ‘random’ with God being all powerful, all-seeing, and all-knowing.


384 posted on 12/09/2011 12:20:27 PM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: allmendream; Alamo-Girl; xzins; schaef21; Truthsearcher; Matchett-PI; BrandtMichaels; dartuser
The Bible says that every dice roll (or casting of lots) is determined by God. Why would “random” genetic mutations be any different?

And so does this mean that you believe that God completely determines everything that happens in the Universe?

If so, how do you make this insight compatible with what orthodox Darwinian evolution theory predicts — that all "progress" in the biological universe is attributable to random accident, somehow attuned to "results" (survival of the species) without there being any purpose-intending result in mind?

A biology of "successful reproduction" on the basis of natural selection doesn't explain anything about the nature of the Reality the "successful replicants" have to "select" for, or against, in order to leave progeny.

God is Power. He could utterly determine everything, were that His design, or purpose.

Yet evidently He chose to do otherwise: He chose to leave man, His own created son, "free."

Which certainly makes for an interesting world.... For man, and I daresay, for God....

But I digress. What I would most like to ask you for, dear AMD, is your list of citations; i.e., re: That God's "dice roll" equals "random mutation," among other things....

393 posted on 12/09/2011 3:13:31 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: allmendream; betty boop; schaef21

Does it make you feel better, or justified in your beliefs, or vindicated, because you think you can appeal to some sort of spiritual authority to validate your belief in evolution over the words of God in Scripture?


399 posted on 12/11/2011 1:16:30 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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