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To: verga
I was HOPING you'd ask that! It's not wrong to create art. The problem is bowing to it. The Isrealites were never directed to bow to the bronze serpent, nor to the Ark! Where are the tabernacles in these photos located? (BTW - I already commented about the blood and body being symbolic. Jesus said he had been speaking figuratively in John 16:25. Can we agree on this?) Bowing Bowing to the Pope Bowing to Mary
179 posted on 11/29/2011 11:12:40 AM PST by Country Gal
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To: Country Gal
You are trying to discuss two separate areas of Catholic Doctrine.

1) Jesus told us clearly in the synoptics that the bread and wine become his literal body, blood, soul, and divinity. This is not a metaphor and it is not figurative.

Joh 6:32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. Joh 6:33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." Joh 6:34 They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always." Joh 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.

Joh 6:41 So the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."

Joh 6:48 I am the bread of life.

Joh 6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

Joh 6:53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Joh 6:54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Joh 6:55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Joh 6:56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. Joh 6:57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. Joh 6:58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever."

How much more literal do you want Jesus to be? Now if the tabernacle does contain the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus shouldn't we bow down before it? this is the second time I am asking yo a direct yes or no question, please answer with either a yes or no.

Your second point 2) You keep combing bowing and worshiping. The bowing is not the issue, rather it is the worshiping. God commanded the construction of the Ark of the covenant and the bronze serpent as well as all of the statuary around the Ark. the Jewish people bowed down before this on a regular basis. The Bronze serpent was only destroyed when the Jewish people began to worship it.

183 posted on 11/29/2011 12:59:09 PM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on television.)
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