We do NOT have access to the “people of heaven”. We have access to the “Throne of God” but communication with those no longer living on this earth has always been forbidden. Witness that even the Apostles were not allowed to speak to Moses and Elijah who appeared with Jesus.
>> and I will give you the right of access among those who are standing here.<<
The right of access among those, the same access as they have, you will be one of those. Not access “to” those.
>> Rom. 8:35-39 - therefore, death does not separate the family of God and the love of Christ. We are still united with each other, even beyond death.<<
That is totally injecting a meaning that is not in Romans 8.
Romans 8:35-39 simply says that nothing will separated us from the love of Christ. Nothing about communicating with those who have left this earth.
>> Matt. 17:3; Mark 9:4; Luke 9:30 - Jesus converses with "deceased" Moses and Elijah. They are more alive than the saints on earth.<<
You did notice that Jesus was “transformed” and that the disciples were not allowed to speak with them right?
Your entire post that you propose as proof is total conjecture. Yes those who have gone on to heaven are “alive” but we are not instructed to communicate with them in any way shape or form. In fact, the only time contact with departed souls is talked about in scripture it is condemned.
Seriously in deep pray God shows there is nothing wrong. The more I pray while reading or not God holds up a scripture in my minds eye at times. That is the main scripture verses shown by The Holy Spirit. This I know my friend without a doubt.
ALSO: You use the Word Transformed. Just remember those Apostles were transformed After The Day of Pentecost in the book of Acts.
Matt. 17:3; Mark 9:4; Luke 9:30 - Jesus converses with "deceased" Moses and Elijah. They are more alive than the saints on earth.
"You did notice that Jesus was “transformed” and that the disciples were not allowed to speak with them right?"
Yes! This event was before Pentecost. So the Apostles were transformed with THe Holy Spirit on Pentecost day.
My Mother was a devout Catholic Christian I left the Church for Indy Churches at the time. I understand your side of the argument I use to believe it too. But through the Holy Spirit. And taking my Mother to Mass the Holy Spirit showed the Bible verses for each step in the Mass. Praying is asking for pray not summoning up spirits like Occultic practices. I know it without a doubt. Praise Jesus to you!
Freeper Regards!