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To: narses; don-o

That’s not difficult to answer at all. One of them isn’t listening. Just like the Catholics don’t listen.

60 posted on 11/25/2011 4:51:01 PM PST by CynicalBear

To: CynicalBear; don-o; crusadersoldier; Ellzeena; Anvilhead; stonehouse01; Goreknowshowtocheat; ...

CynicalBear wrote:

“That’s not difficult to answer at all. One of them isn’t listening. Just like the Catholics don’t listen.”

Well, let us listen to the prophet CynicalBear then.

Questions, oh holy and all knowing CynicalBear:

What Councils of the Church should we pay attention to?

What Creeds enunciated by the ancient Church should we pay attention to?

What particular translation of the Bible must we study?

What denominations are the closest to what you are certain is the True Church?

What makes you certain you are right?

61 posted on 11/25/2011 4:58:57 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)

You are correct. There can only be two answers and not the thousands that those who hold to their own magesterium's interpretation expect everyone to believe. Either someone who is born again by faith in Jesus Christ stays saved if he sins or he loses his salvation if he sins. Scripture clearly says we are saved by faith apart from works so, if staying saved is based on works, then we are NOT saved by faith apart from works.

Salvation is granted either by faith OR works. Deserved OR undeserved. Merited OR unmerited. NOT both, NOT and, one or the other. God became man so that man can be redeemed. We cannot pay the penalty for even one sin of our own because the price, the wages, of sin is death - and it's not a physical death but eternal separation from God. But he loved us so much that he made a way for us. Jesus Christ took upon himself the sins of the world - past, present and future - and paid the penalty in our place. When we receive him as our Savior, believe in him, we are made righteous, justified, sanctified and purified. When God looks at us he sees the righteousness of Christ because we are found in him, not having a righteousness of our own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. Phillipians 3:9

So, I would have to say that whatever denomination or cult or sect teaches that we can lose our salvation if we sin, is the false one and is teaching an accursed gospel.

63 posted on 11/25/2011 5:15:40 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)

That’s not difficult to answer at all. One of them isn’t listening. Just like the Catholics don’t listen.

Ignoring the Catholic bash (my question was to sola believers...what I hear you saying is that if two such believers come to different conclusions (which they do on many important and vital matters) then one of them is simply not listening to the Holy Spirit. Please confirm that is what you are saying.

76 posted on 11/25/2011 6:02:35 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)