****Other than the fact that Peter had just confirmed that Jesus was the “Christ the son of the living God” to which Jesus referred back to when He said “upon this rock I will build my church”.****
CB, you omit the fact that Jesus first says,
“Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in Heaven. And, I say also to thee, ‘Thou art Peter’ and then says “and, upon this rock, I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”
Jesus says nothing about what Peter has confirmed, other than to tell him(and by extension us)that God has revealed this to Peter.
It is only YOUR interpretation that Jesus is referring back to Peter’s confession or to Himself, for the reading of that passage does not indicate that.
Jesus asks the question.
Peter replies.
Jesus says that God has revealed this to Peter.
Jesus calls him by his given name, Simon bar Jonah and then uses the name Jesus(God) has given him which is “rock”.
Then Jesus says He will build His Church upon this “rock”.
Then Jesus promises Peter the keys of the Kingdom, which come with the power to bind and loose.
So, it isn’t a bother, it is the Word of God to Catholics.
It is only a bother to protestants.
Sorry for the double post.
I am having issues with FR today.
What had Peter just said?? What words had Peter said that that Jesus said blessed Peter... lets looks...
Luke 9:18And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am?
19They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elijah; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again. 20He said unto them, But whom say you that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.
Mat 16:Peter's Confession at Caesarea Philippi 13When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.
15He said unto them, But whom say you that I am?
16And Simon Peter answered, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mark 27And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
28And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
29And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
30And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
I posted all 3 versions from the synoptics because only matthew contains the part catholics like to quote..but all 3 record jesus calling Peter satan.. so apparently they found that exchange that Catholics rest all their faith on as less importance than the rebuke of Peter by Jesus
Anyway Jesus said no one could know that unless the father revealed it.. and that made Peter a very blesses man.. Peter who in seconds would be rebuked and called satan was not the focus of Christ..but his declaration of faith was..that declaration.. that very fact was what the church was to be built on..not a weak man that needed rebukes
What was understood by those hearing it ,and later Augustine was the large stone the church would be built upon is the declaration of Christ as the son of God, and that one can not come to that intellectually or by study..but that the church would be taught the truth by the Father in heaven ...just as Peter was and that Jesus had already taught
Jhn 6:44 — No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day
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Jhn 6:45 — It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
...Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be recognized. Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer.Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327
Deut. 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
2 Sam. 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; 3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.
Psalm 18:31, "And who is a rock, except our God."
Isaiah 44:8, "Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none."
Rom. 9:33, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and he who believes in Him will not be disappointed."
1 Cor. 3:11, "For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,"
1 Cor. 10:4, "and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock (petras) which followed them; and the rock (petra) was Christ."
1 Pet. 2:8, speaking of Jesus says that he is "A stone of stumbling and a rock (petra) of offense"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed."
>> “Jesus says nothing about what Peter has confirmed, other than to tell him(and by extension us)that God has revealed this to Peter.” <<
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Just as God reveals it to us. Peter is just like us in every way.
Your confusion is typical of those that do not study the OT sufficiently. Christ is identified as the rock is several places in the OT.
How could the church be based on a weak and sinful man? Such a church would satisfy man’s desires, but not his spiritual needs. Such a “church” would have lots of members, who would come in weekly to have their false “salvation” administered to them by an equally hopelessly lost “priest.”