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To: CynicalBear

****Other than the fact that Peter had just confirmed that Jesus was the “Christ the son of the living God” to which Jesus referred back to when He said “upon this rock I will build my church”.****

CB, you omit the fact that Jesus first says,

“Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in Heaven. And, I say also to thee, ‘Thou art Peter’ and then says “and, upon this rock, I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”

Jesus says nothing about what Peter has confirmed, other than to tell him(and by extension us)that God has revealed this to Peter.

It is only YOUR interpretation that Jesus is referring back to Peter’s confession or to Himself, for the reading of that passage does not indicate that.

Jesus asks the question.

Peter replies.

Jesus says that God has revealed this to Peter.

Jesus calls him by his given name, Simon bar Jonah and then uses the name Jesus(God) has given him which is “rock”.

Then Jesus says He will build His Church upon this “rock”.

Then Jesus promises Peter the keys of the Kingdom, which come with the power to bind and loose.

So, it isn’t a bother, it is the Word of God to Catholics.

It is only a bother to protestants.


436 posted on 11/27/2011 10:44:44 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
It amazes me that the RCC would base one of its central doctrines if not the most important doctrine to the CC on one sentence in scripture. And that, after multiple times scripture shows there is not other rock upon which anything rests other than God.

If you want reference to God as the Rock here are some verses.

Deut. 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

2 Sam. 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; 3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

Psalm 18:31, "And who is a rock, except our God."

Isaiah 44:8, "Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none."

Rom. 9:33, "Behold, I lay in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, and he who believes in Him will not be disappointed."

1 Cor. 3:11, "For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,"

1 Cor. 10:4, "and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock (petras) which followed them; and the rock (petra) was Christ."

1 Pet. 2:8, speaking of Jesus says that he is "A stone of stumbling and a rock (petra) of offense"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed."

After all those references the CC claims that one sentence eliminates all that evidence and replaces God with Peter. It’s utter nonsense.

454 posted on 11/27/2011 1:47:52 PM PST by CynicalBear
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