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To: CynicalBear
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

That's very clear.

John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.
John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
John 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

That's very clear and anyone who honestly accepts that Chirst, one with the Father and Holy Ghost, could be incarnated as a man has no problem accepting that Christ can put a bit of His flesh and His blood into the Eucharist bread and wine. Unless, of course, doing so would dethrone their own intellect.

321 posted on 11/26/2011 4:29:36 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin
>> that Christ can put a bit of His flesh and His blood into the Eucharist bread and wine<<

So it’s an unbloody ceremony with blood! Did I get that correct? And Jesus flesh used to be a waffer.

325 posted on 11/26/2011 4:55:07 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear
You really need to read the context of this chapter.. They were not seeking a Savior, they were seeking a man that could feed thousands with a few fish and loaves..

Jesus was giving them a spiritual lesson..

John 6 26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. 30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. [32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you,That ye also have seen me, and believe not

Jesus was rebuking the crowd that did not seek spiritual things but wanted physical food from him..

He was telling them HE was like the manna in the desert.. He was the life giver..

326 posted on 11/26/2011 5:00:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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