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To: metmom
I think this argument is mute at times. I have friends who believe like you and do great good for others in Christ. I know Catholics who have Christ without a doubt too. Who give out in the name of Christ too.

You may call it stewardship of grace. I may call it a state of grace. We still believe in Christ. I pray to Christ. I know Christ. We still do it because we love Christ. I still hold Christ so can brothers and sisters who see it from a different angle. I believe we like to split hairs.

208 posted on 11/26/2011 10:24:23 AM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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To: johngrace

It’s not a moot point.

Anyone who adds works to intellectual knowledge about God concluding that because they have the *works* they have saving faith is being deceived and in for a very rude awakening.

The pharisees had all the works of the Law down to the dotted *i* and crossed *t*, and Jesus said they were spiritually dead.

Doing works does not guarantee salvation. Salvation guarantees works. Anyone whose claim of having faith isn’t backed up with works that naturally flow from within, really needs to consider if they’re really born from above, for their own sake.


281 posted on 11/26/2011 12:29:56 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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