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To: johngrace
>>Its the grace of Christ which will show the fruits(works) of a Christian otherwise it is useless.<<

Find one time in all these threads that the claim was made that faith and salvation would not produce good works.

It’s interesting that in all the verses you quote the statements are made that show that faith saves but the proof of that faith is what a Christian does after. Yet you decline to either show that or articulate it. Once again it’s proven that works are only a result of being saved and not the cause of it.

204 posted on 11/26/2011 10:13:19 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; johngrace

” Yet you decline to either show that or articulate it “

Nope. When we show you EXACTLY what the Universal Church teaches and has taught for an unbroken 2,000 years since Our Lord appointed His Apostles the task of “Teaching all the Nations”, you stick your head in the sand and refuse to look. Willful ignorance is NOT going to be an acceptable excuse on Judgment Day.


205 posted on 11/26/2011 10:17:43 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom; Salvation
Did you ever entertain an angel unawares?

Why would God have us entertain angels? This is in scripture.

I had several moments in my life where an an individual would come for help. Then would have only an supernatural answer for what happen.

I had a woman ask me for 5 dollars. I would pray to God if it would go to waste. Well I gave it. Right after I gave it. I would look down at my beeping scanner then look up. The car and the woman would be gone. Totally impossible in the natural. It was a second or two. Her car was 20 ft away.

I ran around to look but totally gone.

So what is Christ showing us when this happens?

I also had this happen when a friend of mine did not believe we entertained angels. Some one just happen to come to the door asking for food or money when that never happen before or since at the house. My friend was right there. He believes now more than ever.

What in the world would the Lord be showing us when this happens?

233 posted on 11/26/2011 10:54:41 AM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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