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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
The mass did not become an official doctrine until pronounced by the Lateran Council of 1215 under the direction of Pope Innocent III,

There was no priests in the new church.it was about 300 AD before the first priesthood appeared..

Greg Dues has written Catholic Customs & Traditions, a popular guide (New London: Twenty Third Publications, 2007). On page 166 he states, "Priesthood as we know it in the Catholic church was unheard of during the first generation of Christianity, because at that time priesthood was still associated with animal sacrifices in both the Jewish and pagan religions."

"A clearly defined local leadership in the form of elders, or presbyteroi, became still more important when the original apostles and disciples of Jesus died. The chief elder in each community was often called the episkopos (Greek, 'overseer'). In English this came to be translated as 'bishop' (Latin, episcopus). Ordinarily he presided over the community's Eucharistic assembly."

"When the Eucharist came to be regarded as a sacrifice, the role of the bishop took on a priestly dimension. By the third century bishops were considered priests. Presbyters or elders sometimes substituted for the bishop at the Eucharist. By the end of the third century people all over were using the title 'priest' (hierus in Greek and sacerdos in Latin) for whoever presided at the Eucharist."

No priesthood, no sacrifice, no "liturgy" (unless one calls singing liturgy), no altar... The Catholic mass, and system is found NO WHERE in the Biblical NT church ..sorry you have been had

752 posted on 11/27/2011 8:12:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Religion Moderator; one Lord one faith one baptism
"The mass did not become an official doctrine until pronounced by the Lateran Council of 1215 under the direction of Pope Innocent III,"

Your posing is an obviously unattributed direct quote from the jesus-is-savior.com website complete with the dangling comma at the end. Compare it to the following I excerpted from that site.

"the mass did not become an official doctrine until pronounced by the Lateran Council of 1215 under the direction of Pope Innocent III,"

Your entire posting effort over the last couple of days is completely thematic with the content of the page it came from. It really is despicable.

787 posted on 11/28/2011 8:03:04 AM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: RnMomof7; smvoice; Iscool; metmom; rzman21; Natural Law

LOL, you and Greg Dues ( whoever he is ) need the read Igantius of Antioch, the Didache and Justin Martyr.

but he does admit something you won’t

“priesthood as we know it in the Catholic Church was unheard of during the first generation of Christianity”

hmm.....the Catholic Church was around during the first generation of Christianity!!

wow, it’s what i’ve been saying all along!

but we don’t need to look to the Fathers, Paul tells you in 1 Corinthians 10 that the Eucharist is a sacrifice.


906 posted on 11/28/2011 4:15:01 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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