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To: CynicalBear
Not all are called to the same purpose.

Yes, but your position is that *all* Christians are tasked with… not some according to their talents, but all.

Your argument seems to be heading straight for "but that is of no consequence in cases where they arrive at my beliefs by any method, even wrong and dangerous ones." ;)

Yes they are and it’s a dangerous place to be.

But they are in the same place you said was salvation. [cf: "I believe they are saved."]

I'm pushed to ask now, on closer examination, is this task really just very important for you and not for others? This is where I'm left given your statements.

If all your previously stated requirements for arriving at truth are now waived if the person happens to share your conclusions (and thus get your approval as far as their salvation theology), how am I to avoid the revelation that what you are describing here is reduced to just your search to find the true Christian Faith -- with those who agree with your results, by whatever means or no means, included by you as part of the true Church -- as determined by you?

I.e., what started out as important objective requirements for all Christians seems reduced to all-important subjective results, that they be the same as yours.

I'm off to sleep and have enjoyed the discussion as well.

God bless...

4,064 posted on 12/14/2011 9:46:03 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
>> I'm pushed to ask now, on closer examination, is this task really just very important for you and not for others? This is where I'm left given your statements.

It would be for all who truly put their walk with the Lord first in their lives to search for the meat of scripture to the extent that God has given them the desire and talent. I have a daughter whose faith is unshakable. A missionary no less, who serves the physical needs more than the deeper spiritual meat. I also have a son who was drawn to the deeper spiritual meat as I was. Each is called for a different purpose and task. Each equally saved and blessed.

>> and thus get your approval as far as their salvation theology<<

No one needs my approval. My approval is totally irrelevant. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant to my salvation. My salvation doesn’t depend on whether you agree with me or not or whether the RCC agrees with me or not. I put no trust in earthly organizations or people. My faith and trust are in Jesus and trust the Holy Spirit to lead and guide me in my search for truth.

>> what started out as important objective requirements for all Christians seems reduced to all-important subjective results, that they be the same as yours.<<

Not subjective at all. Based only on the one true Rock and that is the unchanging truth found in scripture as we are illuminated by the Spirit of God.

4,068 posted on 12/15/2011 7:07:02 AM PST by CynicalBear
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