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To: D-fendr
Why don’t you just start at the beginning? Paul, when asked by the Jailor “what must I do to be saved” said “believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved – and your house”. Paul didn’t then go on to list and entire book on do’s and don’ts. We are also told that even our best works are as dirty rags to God. Does that sound like anything we can do is ever going to be good enough? We are also told that once we believe it’s Christ in us that does the works.

Looking for legalisms where there should be none is religion. With a bottom line of the simple gospel of “believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved – and your house” and the understanding that nothing I can do will be good enough and Jesus is the one doing the good works through me “ask and it shall be given, seek and you will find” the truth with the help of the Holy Spirit. Looking for carnal answers will get you no where. Trying our own understanding is futile. Trust in Him alone and He will guide your footsteps. Trust totally in Him and He will never let you down.

4,037 posted on 12/14/2011 5:58:44 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Why don’t you just start at the beginning? Paul, when…

The beginning here would be if and why Paul's writing is scripture and, if so, what it means in context of soteriology. You said you believe that every Christian's task is to:

…determine what is scripture or revelation, what is the correct translation and meaning of same and from this what are the correct beliefs…

I should make clear here that I'm not looking to discuss what your results are but, rather, how they are derived and so on.

Trying our own understanding is futile.

Doesn't this contradict your view above? Isn't the point of the task to arrive at your own understanding?

ask and it shall be given, seek and you will find” the truth with the help of the Holy Spirit.

I understand the statement as it refers to the topic: your methodology for determining your religious beliefs.

My question again is: What then is the basis or standard for determining which 'truth' is correct when two, using the same method, arrive at different truths?

4,038 posted on 12/14/2011 6:14:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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