To: D-fendr; metmom
The order being that God elected you because he saw your choice or you chose because He elected you.. we both hold Salvation by grace alone by faith alone.. The saved, no matter their denomination know the gospel and believe it..
Catholics do not get the difference between being 'protestant " and being saved ...
To: RnMomof7
And you don't understand the difference between the Catholic Church and your so-called denominations. Jesus opened the way to salvation for us collectively as a race by doing away with the curse of Adam on the cross, but it is up to us subjectively to open ourselves to that grace. St. Paul says he's running a race and tells us to work out our salvation. He also says we are God's "fellow workers" in Greek, synergos, or synergy, so you can't only do the following and be saved.
To: RnMomof7
The order being that God elected you because he saw your choice or you chose because He elected you.. Salvation by faith vs. salvation by election.
Grace>Faith>Salvation
vs. Election>Grace>Salvation.
"Do humans have free will to believe or reject the gospel?" One says yes, the other says no.
we both hold Salvation by grace alone by faith alone.. With the tiny asterisk (*only if you were born lucky) by one group and not by the other.
Hardly the same soteriology, not even the same interpretation of salvation, Christ's atonement or man's free will.
2,883 posted on
12/05/2011 6:28:53 PM PST by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: RnMomof7
Catholics do not get the difference between being 'protestant " and being saved ... To the contrary. We understand it very well. That is why we are Catholic.
2,888 posted on
12/05/2011 7:45:41 PM PST by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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