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To: MarkBsnr

Catholic converts to Protestantism start with bitterness.

Protestant converts to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy start with a desire to know more and do it for intellectual reasons.

Most Catholics who convert to Protestantism only had a rudimentary superficial understanding of Catholicism.


2,525 posted on 12/04/2011 7:03:36 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; Alamo-Girl; metmom; Dr. Eckleberg; RnMomof7; roamer_1
I'll restrain myself this time.

It is often my custom . . . largely to avoid fierce word exchanges . . . to post gifs to outrageous assertions.

This assertion is an outrageous, demonstrably false rationalization--particularly about such as MetMom, Dr Eckleberg's hubby etc. It may be a convenient rationalization to improve RC comfort. It's just NOT TRUE. We proddys find it outrageously glib and farcical.

It is one of the classic knee-jerk RC responses on FR. It demonstrates demeaning and supremely haughtily insulting hostility to the Proddys posting out of an extensive well taught RC background.

WHEN y'all post such things, imho, y'all deserve fierceness back.

Sure, SOME former RC's were not taught well. MOST frequent Proddy posters ON FR WERE TAUGHT EXTREMELY WELL and know Roman Catholicism extensively with great breadth and depth. Some taught the RC catechism with great effect and applauds from their superiors.

It is this sort of 'insufferable' arrogance and haughtiness in posts which deserve the fierce proddy response.

Nevertheless, it is RC !!!!TRADITION!!!! to construe Proddys as sooooo beyond the pale that anything nasty and UNTRUE can be said about proddys with purported, assumed, prissy arrogant impunity from the RC perspective. Sadly, they seem to have brainwashed some others on FR into buying into that mentality.

It's my thankless duty--on occasion--to not allow such assumptions without a starkly fierce response they deserve.

Of course, !!!!TRADITIONALLY!!!! thin-skinned RC's cannot well handle being called on their junk. BY DAFFYNITION THEY HAVE NO JUNK. Their INSTITUTION is construed as GOD etc. etc. etc. So any calling a spade a spade by a Proddy MUST be castigated in the fiercest most personally assaultive terms. It's FR !!!!TRADITION!!!!

The blasphemous heretical theology of the RCC is horrific enough. However, I'm increasingly convinced that it's the arrogance that will keep many of them out of Heaven.

2,530 posted on 12/04/2011 7:24:04 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: rzman21
Most Catholics who convert to Protestantism only had a rudimentary superficial understanding of Catholicism.

Can you post me to the study that proves this conclusion? Oh....I already know.....this is your own assumption.

2,540 posted on 12/04/2011 10:42:43 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: rzman21; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...
Catholic converts to Protestantism start with bitterness.

I didn't convert to Protestantism. I accepted Christ's finished work on the cross for the payment of my sins and have been born again. That makes me a Christ follower, a new creation in Christ, adopted into His family, transferred from the domain of darkness into the kingdom of the Son he loves.

Colossians 1:13-14 13He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

I am not a Baptist, Lutheran, Calvinist, or whatever label you wish to slap on me. That is not my identity in Christ. My identity in Christ is Christ. In Him I live and move and have my being.

Protestant converts to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy start with a desire to know more and do it for intellectual reasons.

1 Corinthians 1:18-25 18For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written,
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart."
20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:11-16 11For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

14The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 "For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

2,546 posted on 12/04/2011 11:25:13 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: rzman21
Catholic converts to Protestantism start with bitterness.

Protestant converts to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy start with a desire to know more and do it for intellectual reasons.

Most Catholics who convert to Protestantism only had a rudimentary superficial understanding of Catholicism.

That is exactly what not only my own experience indicates, but also what the failed Catholics here post repeatedly.

2,626 posted on 12/04/2011 5:16:02 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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