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To: CynicalBear
"You got it! The point is that none of those creeds, rituals, and “official memberships” were required for salvation until long after the last Apostle died."

The Creeds (from the Latin Credo meaning I believe) are not a memberships or rituals, they are professions of faith. We have seen you blather on in these threads about what you don't believe, why don't you profess your faith and tell us where it differs from the Apostles Creed. Then tell us if or why you consider yourself in "communion" with other Christians.

239 posted on 11/25/2011 7:50:56 AM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear

Christians believe we become “partakers of the divine nature”

for example, one aspect of the divine nature is God has no beginning and no ending.

In Christ, we will live forever with God in heaven.

we become partakers of this aspect of the divine nature.

Christians believe this because God revealed this to us.


241 posted on 11/25/2011 8:03:29 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear; metmom; boatbums
The Profession of Faith, the Apostles Creed, that you so often praise and insist are what makes Christians "Chistian" do not contain the gospel of your salvation. Without that, it doesn't matter what else you believe, it is the gospel that saves, and it is not in the Apostles Creed or the Nicene Creed. To say that "Christ suffered under Pontius Pilate, was killed, buried, and rose again" is NOT the gospel. It's not even close.

Not only that, NL, there is something that YOUR OWN CHURCH REQUIRES that you believe for salvation that is NOT EVEN IN THE APOSTLES CREED OR THE NICENE CREED: BOTH were SILENT concerning the ASSUMPTION OF MARY. The same thing is true of ALL other ACCEPTED CREEDS OF THE EARLY CHURCH.

So much for OFFICIAL professions of faith...

243 posted on 11/25/2011 8:27:12 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: Natural Law

I believe that Jesus Christ paid the price for all my sins and through Him I have everlasting life with Him. He paid the price ONCE and for all of eternity.


244 posted on 11/25/2011 8:40:45 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law; CynicalBear
I'm asking again: the Apostles Creed DOES NOT CONTAIN ANYTHING concerning the ASSSUMPTION OF MARY. It was SILENT on that regard. Isn't that a requirement for salvation in your Catholic Church? You MUST believe she was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory?

So does this FACT make the Apostles Creed incomplete? Or when you repeat this profession of faith, do you add the assumption of Mary at some point in the Apostles Creed? It is all about THE PROFESSION OF FAITH, after all.

249 posted on 11/25/2011 8:54:31 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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