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To: RnMomof7
Mocking me does not change the truth..jesus never gave permission for the NT church to change the JEWISH Canon ... live with it >>The Jews changed their canon at the Synod of Jamnia, some 60 years AFTER Jesus ascended into heaven. Evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls suggests the Jews hadn't closed their canon when the Church arose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Jamnia So you are siding against Christ with a Jewish synod that anathematized the same Septuagint scriptures that the Apostle Paul used to prove the divinity of Christ to the Bereans. Kind of ironic. ROME DID NOT CHANGE THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO CITE THE ANCIENT CANONS. The Council of Carthage decreed in the year 419

Canon 24. (Greek xxvii.) That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture Item, that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture. But the Canonical Scriptures are as follows: Genesis. Exodus. Leviticus. Numbers. Deuteronomy. Joshua the Son of Nun. The Judges. Ruth. The Kings, iv. books. The Chronicles, ij. books. Job. The Psalter. The Five books of Solomon. The Twelve Books of the Prophets. Isaiah. Jeremiah. Ezechiel. Daniel. Tobit. Judith. Esther. Ezra, ij. books. Macchabees, ij. books. The New Testament. The Gospels, iv. books. The Acts of the Apostles, j. book. The Epistles of Paul, xiv. The Epistles of Peter, the Apostle, ij. The Epistles of John the Apostle, iij. The Epistles of James the Apostle, j. The Epistle of Jude the Apostle, j. The Revelation of John, j. book. Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church.

The Ethiopian Jews, for example, consider those books you and the Palestinian Jews consider "apocryphal" to be part of the Bible. http://biblescripture.net/Canon.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls#Significance_to_the_Canon_of_the_Bible
2,354 posted on 12/03/2011 7:00:31 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
The Jews changed their canon at the Synod of Jamnia, some 60 years AFTER Jesus ascended into heaven.They affirmed and closed their canon they did not change it.

The Book of Deuteronomy includes a prohibition against adding or subtracting,[2][3] which might apply to the book itself (i.e. a "closed book," a prohibition against future scribal editing) or to the instruction received by Moses on Mt. Sinai.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Jewish_Bible_canon

The apocrypha contains errors and contradictions within their pages.. all inspired scripture is written by prophets ( one that speaks for God)..yet in maccabees we are told that there was no prophets during that inter-testimonial period ..These writings have been a part of the jewish culture as of historic interest.. but never as inspired scripture

When Jerome learned that he refused to translate them .

The Jews Never accepted the apocrypha as part of the Old testament canon.

One more time..Where did Jesus ever give the NT church the authority to add to the Hebrew Bible..

2,380 posted on 12/03/2011 7:33:03 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: rzman21; RnMomof7
Mocking me does not change the truth..jesus never gave permission for the NT church to change the JEWISH Canon ... live with it >>The Jews changed their canon at the Synod of Jamnia, some 60 years AFTER Jesus ascended into heaven. Evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls suggests the Jews hadn't closed their canon when the Church arose. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Jamnia [...]So you are siding against Christ with a Jewish synod that anathematized the same Septuagint scriptures that the Apostle Paul used to prove the divinity of Christ to the Bereans. Kind of ironic. ROME DID NOT CHANGE THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO CITE THE ANCIENT CANONS. The Council of Carthage decreed in the year 419

Graetz is wholly discredited, and has been for a long, long time. From your own source:

In 1871 Heinrich Graetz, drawing on Mishnaic and Talmudic sources, concluded that there must have been a late 1st century Council of Jamnia which had decided the Jewish canon. This became the prevailing scholarly consensus for much of the 20th century, but from the 1960s onwards it came increasingly into question. In particular, later scholars noted that none of Graetz's sources actually mentioned books that had been withdrawn from a canon, and questioned the whole premise that the discussions of the rabbis were about canonicity at all.

src: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jamnia, PP IV

And the Dead Sea Scrolls, with a very few exceptions, tend to support the Jewish notion, being for the large part a proto-masoretic collection. The very idea of 'canon' is a Greek/Roman (pagan) construct. The Jewish 'canon' would be the Torah, which is held paramount even against the rest of the Tanakh.

So you are siding against Christ with a Jewish synod that anathematized the same Septuagint scriptures that the Apostle Paul used to prove the divinity of Christ to the Bereans. Kind of ironic. ROME DID NOT CHANGE THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO CITE THE ANCIENT CANONS. The Council of Carthage decreed in the year 419

I find it HIGHLY unlikely that Paul, a student at the feet of Gamaliel, and quite likely a member of the Sanhedrin, was using anything but Hebrew scriptures. Again, the DSS puts to shame the idea that anything but Hebrew was being used within the Temple precinct, and calls into serious question the idea that Hebrew was a dead language at all in the first century. Rather that it was a living language, and quite likely used among the general public.

The Ethiopian Jews, for example, consider those books you and the Palestinian Jews consider "apocryphal" to be part of the Bible. http://biblescripture.net/Canon.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls#Significance_to_the_Canon_of_the_Bible

So what? Ethiopia naturally looked to Alexandria. No one would dispute that the official Hebrew Scriptures and the authority for them was undoubtedly Jerusalem.

2,466 posted on 12/03/2011 8:54:15 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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