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To: mas cerveza por favor; metmom
Greek Father St. John of Damascus testified “St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon (451), made known to the Emperor Marcian and Pulcheria, who wished to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the Apostles, but that her tomb, when opened, upon the request of St. Thomas, was found empty; where from the Apostles concluded that the body was taken up to heaven.”

You did not source this quote.. :)

Was this voted on and accepted by the council or simply a time frame? Can you say with certainty that 'St John of Damascus" was INFALLIBLE??

From The Catholic Encyclopedia

Regarding the day, year, and manner of Our Lady's death, nothing certain is known. The earliest known literary reference to the Assumption is found in the Greek work De Obitu S. Dominae. Catholic faith, however, has always derived our knowledge of the mystery from Apostolic Tradition. Epiphanius (d. 403) acknowledged that he knew nothing definite about it (Haer., lxxix, 11).

The dates assigned for it vary between three and fifteen years after Christ's Ascension. Two cities claim to be the place of her departure: Jerusalem and Ephesus. Common consent favours Jerusalem, where her tomb is shown; but some argue in favour of Ephesus. The first six centuries did not know of the tomb of Mary at Jerusalem.

So there is no date, no time, no location, no sure knowledge if she was alone or not.. no cause and not even a sure burial place

2,086 posted on 12/02/2011 6:23:30 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

>>>>Can you say with certainty that ‘St John of Damascus” was INFALLIBLE??

Can you say with certainty that your interpretation is?


2,088 posted on 12/02/2011 6:28:19 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: RnMomof7
So there is no date, no time, no location, no sure knowledge if she was alone or not.. no cause and not even a sure burial place

But there is the testimony of St. John of Damascus, logic, and the constant belief of 2000-year, Paraclete-informed Christian Church

2,114 posted on 12/02/2011 7:14:04 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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