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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: metmom

THIS IS MY BODY.

THE CUP OF BLESSING WHICH WE BLESS, IS IT NOT A PARTICIPATION IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST? THE BREAD WE BREAK, IS IT NOT A PARTICIPATION IN THE BODY OF CHRIST?


341 posted on 11/25/2011 3:17:59 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; metmom

“where does His blood come from”

i need to repeat a post to CB, Christians believe Jesus Christ is God. He is fully capable of providing His Blood to us in the cup of blessing.

At least this is what Christians believe and have for 2,000 years since we received this teaching from the Apostles.


342 posted on 11/25/2011 3:23:09 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; CynicalBear; metmom
The Book of Hebrews matches Israel in the tribulation, as God is dealing with Her as a Nation once again, in the last days, and showing Her Christ is indeed the Messiah.

Who is it written to? "THE CATHOLICS"?...No. It is written to the "HEBREWS" and speaks of the last days before Christ returns to set up His Kingdom, where they will be a Nation of Priests and a blessing to all nations.

Sorry, always a bridesmaid, never a bride for the Catholic Church. You've rejected the gospel of your salvation for this age, "But Now" of Ephesians Chapter 2, and you're not Israel in the "ages to come." No more than your were Israel in "Time Past" of Eph. Chapter 2.

343 posted on 11/25/2011 3:24:45 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Gee, your catholic liberalism is showing. Twisting what was said. But that fits even your interpretation of God's Word.

You CAN'T serve two masters - God and 'man'. Either it's God's Word or man made teachings - don't mix the two. Because man made teachings/traditions nullify God's Word. Only use the one that is the Final Authority to you.

you seem like an expert in the Faith

Explain what makes one an expert in the faith that you speak of.

And what is faith?

And where do you get faith?

I believe you enjoy little quizzes - so I'm sure you will return your answers pronto.

how many times does the Church teach Jesus died?

You might want to rephrase that sentence - your writing is just as screwed up as your comprehension. That could be the result of too much spinning and twisting.

And when you post to me - don't say 'the church'. Say catholic church - or mormon church - those are man made churches w/man made teachings. It's best to keep things honest and clear. I attend God's church where Jesus is the HEAD and where HIS WORD is the FINAL AUTHORITY and anyone entering through our doors already know Jesus died ONCE.

You think you can remember that - Christians go to where Jesus the Christ is the Head and where GOD'S Word is the FINAL Authority, Catholics go to a catholic church where man is the head where man made teachings reign and Mormons go to the mormon church, also, where man made teachings reign. I believe even you can keep that straight.
344 posted on 11/25/2011 3:30:40 PM PST by presently no screen name ( “If it’s not in God’s Word - don’t pass it off as truth! That’s satan’s job. “)
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To: smvoice; metmom; CynicalBear

eh, hate to break the news to you but Christians know that Jesus has already established His Kingdom.

Colossians 1:13-14

He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us to THE KINGDOM OF HIS BELOVED SON, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.


345 posted on 11/25/2011 3:30:49 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; CynicalBear; metmom

..So what you’re saying is because He is fully capable of providing His Blood, that He no longer possesses as it was ALL poured out at Calvary, it is actually NOT an unbloody Mass, but a very real bloody Mass..If He possesses no blood and yet turns wine into His blood, it would HAVE to be a bloody sacrifice, in order to get blood.


346 posted on 11/25/2011 3:34:03 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice

EXACTLY! There is NO blood in a spiritual body. Not rocket science but the Vatican/CC aren’t known for their smarts - they are known for their deception.


347 posted on 11/25/2011 3:34:11 PM PST by presently no screen name ( “If it’s not in God’s Word - don’t pass it off as truth! That’s satan’s job. “)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; metmom; boatbums; smvoice
Are you also circumcised only it was done supernaturally?

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

How about buried? Where you also literally buried?

Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Where you also literally crucified with Christ?

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

348 posted on 11/25/2011 3:34:11 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice; metmom; CynicalBear
He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us to THE KINGDOM OF HIS BELOVED SON, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Then why do Catholics not think that they ARE redeemed and why do they think that they don't have forgiveness?

349 posted on 11/25/2011 3:35:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; CynicalBear; metmom

Do you not know that Christ is going to return to this earth and set up His Kingdom? Are you not aware of the covenants He made with Israel? Are do you just want to be Israel so badly that you’re willing to overlook THEIR promises, covenants made to THEM, and their FUTURE in God’s Plan for man?


350 posted on 11/25/2011 3:40:53 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice; one Lord one faith one baptism; metmom
>> There IS no more blood for the wine to be turned into<<

The wine is turned into blood but it’s no a bloody sacrifice? Wait,,,,,what? If the wine is turned to blood it’s blood. It then becomes a bloody sacrifice.

351 posted on 11/25/2011 3:41:02 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: presently no screen name

i am glad you and i agree THE CHURCH teaches Jesus died once, never to suffer or die again.

i guess i am stupid, but when your previous post said Jesus died ONCE ( boldened for emphasis ) i took that to mean you were implying the Church taught something different than that. that was my mistake, i am glad we agree Jesus died once.

BTW - THERE IS ONLY ONE CHURCH, JUST AS THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD, ONE FAITH AND ONE BAPTISM.

Mormons, Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventist can all put “church” after their name, but the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church was established by Jesus Christ Himself and it is THE CHURCH.


352 posted on 11/25/2011 3:41:49 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: smvoice

LOL, i said what i said and it bears no resemblance to what you just posted.

go into fiction writing, you have a gift!!


353 posted on 11/25/2011 3:43:49 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CynicalBear

You would think, wouldn’t you? But then you couldn’t be a Catholic. Thinking is not allowed beyond what is given to think about. Thinking leads to “NO CRACKER FOR YOU”.


354 posted on 11/25/2011 3:44:16 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

In order to get into fiction writing, I would have to become Catholic. They are the ones with the GIFT of writing fiction..


355 posted on 11/25/2011 3:46:36 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: metmom
I know - they couldn't think themselves out of a paper bag. If they are in it - they would assume they have to stay there because the RCC says 'don't question'.

Disobeying His Word is bad enough but trying to justify it in spite of being told numerous times they are wrong - has eternal consequences. When told they go into 'mock mode'.
356 posted on 11/25/2011 3:48:27 PM PST by presently no screen name ( “If it’s not in God’s Word - don’t pass it off as truth! That’s satan’s job. “)
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To: metmom; CynicalBear; smvoice; Judith Anne

remember your story, you know the one where you used to be Catholic.

you have to watch asking questions like this that anyone who really was once Catholic , knows doesn’t match Catholic belief.

i think actors call it “staying in character”


357 posted on 11/25/2011 3:48:37 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: smvoice

do i need to explain again who the “Israel of God” is?

hint: it has nothing to do with DNA.

hint 2 : read Galatians 3:29.


358 posted on 11/25/2011 3:51:02 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: metmom

>>>>>>That charge has been laid to non-Catholics many times on this very thread by Catholics in much clearer terms

Oh, like the paramecium thing? Yes that was a joke.

>>>>> than just hints. And other times on other threads in the form of exorcism prayers being directed towards them.

If I’m not mistaken, the hysterical complaints harassed the RM into forbidding exorcism prayers. Talk about thin skin. Not that exorcism prayers aren’t said privately. And candles lit. ;-D No way for you to control that, is there?


359 posted on 11/25/2011 3:51:58 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice; metmom
>>eh, hate to break the news to you but Christians know that Jesus has already established His Kingdom.<<

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Are we now in that thousand years and has Satan been chained and have no control on earth or is that still to come?

360 posted on 11/25/2011 3:53:56 PM PST by CynicalBear
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