Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
Never been there
>>One couldn’t tell based on your anti-Catholic postings. I’m sure you and the members of the Church of Satan have a common hatred of Catholicism that you could both share.
Look up all the definitions of a cult. Catholic, Mormon, Muslim, or Jonestown and they all fit.
There was a time when PC did not exist..reading luther is amazing
Pre school and Kindergarten need for picture books with a lack of scriptural basis.
| "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it.... |
Martin Luther’s Preface to the Revelation of St. John (1522)
About this Book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic.
First and foremost, the apostles do not deal with visions, but prophesy in clear and plain words, as do Peter and Paul, and Christ in the gospel. For it befits the apostolic office to speak clearly of Christ and his deeds, without images and visions. Moreover there is no prophet in the Old Testament, to say nothing of the New, who deals so exclusively with visions and images. For myself, I think it approximates the Fourth Book of Esdras; I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it.
Moreover he seems to me to be going much too far when he commends his own book so highly [Revelation 22]—indeed, more than any of the other sacred books do, though they are much more important—and threatens that if anyone takes away anything from it, God will take away from him, etc. Again, they are supposed to be blessed who keep what is written in this book; and yet no one knows what that is, to say nothing of keeping it. This is just the same as if we did not have the book at all. And there are many far better books available for us to keep.
Many of the fathers also rejected this book a long time ago; although St. Jerome, to be sure, refers to it in exalted terms and says that it is above all praise and that there are as many mysteries in it as words. Still, Jerome cannot prove this at all, and his praise at numerous places is too generous.
Finally, let everyone think of it as his own spirit leads him. My spirit cannot accommodate itself to this book. For me this is reason enough not to think highly of it: Christ is neither taught nor known in it. But to teach Christ, this is the thing which an apostle is bound above all else to do; as Christ says in Acts 1[:8], “You shall be my witnesses.” Therefore I stick to the books which present Christ to me clearly and purely.
The 1522 “Preface to the Revelation of St. John” in Luther’s translation of the New Testament. Pages 398-399 in Luther’s Works Volume 35: Word and Sacrament I (ed. E. Theodore Bachmann; Philadelphia: Fortress, 1960).
Tell that to Quix.
*****Where is that found in Scripture?*****
1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
First came the Church, then from that Church came Scripture.
Notice that one of the first things the Church did when no longer under threat of persecution was to come together to formalize the Canon of Scripture.
******Like I’m going to believe unsubstantiated claims of some organization that wants to claim authority over everyone on the planet in regards to spiritual matters.*****
Not everyone on the planet, just those who believe in Christ.
Whether one chooses to believe or not believe is of no accord to me. History is what it is and the claim of unsubstantiation by anyone is not valid in light of the facts.
Including your own.
I suspect it may take them a looooonnnng
time to catch up with the goal of substantive pics as well as humorous pics in the service of substance.
I don’t know if even re-education would help them wrap their understanding about all that.
Actually . . .
As many RC’s in the RC hierarchy have asserted . . . repeatedly . . .
satan has been quite at home in the Vatican for a very long time.
BTW, are you sure you aren’t Petronski retreaded?
Indeed, the other side delved into characture and insult the moment Quix came out with his idiotic cartoons and the other started ad homming the Catholic Church as a cult.
So we can have a little fun in this unserious discussion too.
So . . . Luther was clueless about Revelation.
That’s supposed to be a revelatory posting?
LOL.
So . . . Luther was clueless about Revelation.
>>Well, so are you.
Maybe you are too busy at the Church of Satan to know better.
Does anyone know . . . do their statues also rant wildly and froth at the mouth and fingers or just the individuals?
>>My Church doesn’t use statues. Not a single one. :)
Yep, this is pretty much how Quixinated threads devolve.
As long as the wacked-out posts are tolerated, even encouraged by some, they will continue and down it goes...
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