Auxiliary Bishop Says Communion In the Hand is a Calvinist Novelty [Ecumenical]

The Eponymous Flower ^ | 08/12/2011 | n/a

[WayneS]

It appears that at least some 'modern Catholics' have also had their senses of humor removed...

[netmilsmom]

>>I believe the Assyrian Church of the East practices communion in hand. I saw it in a YouTube video.<<

WOW! I think that’s pretty cool. I think that everyone who wants to receive in the hand should go to an Assyrian Church of the East.

[trad_anglican]

feeling the full presence of Christ in the act.

Can you explain exactly what this means?

And what if a particular person doesn't feel the full presence of Christ in the act? Was the full presence of Christ still in the act?

[Recovering_Democrat]

I'm betting these guys put the bread in their mouths all on their own....

[TSgt]

Why not? That’s kind of what a forum is about. We discuss things.

If you don't mind I'll bookmark this so I can share it with other FReepers who get upset when I "discuss" things. ;)

Back to the topic at hand. Why is there so much focus on the process of communion instead of why we have communion? What are the origins of the current "process?"

[TFMcGuire]

At the last supper. Jesus broke the bread and passed it to his disciples who took it in their hands.

They also took the cup and each drank from it.

And the elements were not round wafers dipped into an ornate
chalice.

Every man grasps salvation for himself when he believes the promises of God and puts his faith in Christ.

Salvation is not dispensed to man by an officer of the church.

[netmilsmom]

>>It appears that at least some ‘modern Catholics’ have also had their senses of humor removed... <<

Just because you think it’s funny, it’s not really humor.
This is humor....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYZ9cBzMcg

[TSgt]

Every man grasps salvation for himself when he believes the promises of God and puts his faith in Christ. Salvation is not dispensed to man by an officer of the church.

AMEN!

[Recovering_Democrat]

Don’t give in on that point...this was a Jewish Passover meal.

The person serving the meal (in this case Jesus) did not go about feeding each individual one by one. That is preposterous.

I am not saying the practice is WRONG, but it certainly isn’t required. And it definitely isn’t how the Passover was celebrated. *If* Christ had done something that out of the ordinary, one would suspect the writers of the gospels would have noted the action.

The idea still lives on in even evangelical churches, that a pastor ought to lead or “bless” the elements before communion.

[netmilsmom]

>>Why not? That’s kind of what a forum is about. We discuss things.

If you don’t mind I’ll bookmark this so I can share it with other FReepers who get upset when I “discuss” things. ;)
<<

As long as you keep it in context, I don’t mind. Discussion is not baiting or insulting though.

>>Why is there so much focus on the process of communion instead of why we have communion?<<

Don’t you know why? I think Catholics do.

[rzman21]

It’s kosher for Catholics to receive communion in their parishes as far as the Catholic Church is concerned.

[netmilsmom]

Where did you get that photo? I didn’t think they had cameras back then.

[netmilsmom]

>>It’s kosher for Catholics to receive communion in their parishes as far as the Catholic Church is concerned.<<

I never said it wasn’t “Kosher”. I did say that ‘I’ think...
That means, ‘I’ think.

[RobbyS]

Beside the point: Fact is that taking by hand is less referential. Jung who grew up Calvinist once described Holy Communion by the Swiss Calvinist rite as spiritually “dry.” It ceases being a personal reception of the Lord and became a mere ceremony. It certainly was treated that way in the Cumberland Presbyterian church I attended when I was young.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

this was a Jewish Passover meal. [...] *If* Christ had done something that out of the ordinary, one would suspect the writers of the gospels would have noted the action.

I dunno - none of the synoptics saw fit to note that, as John states, the meal took place on the night before Passover.

[RobbyS]

Tat statement is meaningless in Catholic terms. The priest is not an “officer of the Church,” but “another Christ:. The hands that distribute the host come from a successful of living hands back to the hands of Christ himself. It is Christ himself who feeds us if we faithfully receive him.

[TIElniff]

It’s not only not fair to claim that Calvinism denies the presence of Christ in the sacrament, it is also not accurate. What the Calvinist denies is the physical presence of Christ in the sacrament (i.e., transubstantiation); he does not for a moment deny the spiritual presence of Christ in the sacrament.

[rzman21]

I was just saying.

[auntyfemenist]

Well, when Jesus instituted communion as a remembrance, he also said that whoever dipped his bread in the wine at the same time he did would be his betrayer. That would imply that each disciple had their own bread in their own hands. That being said, it probably doesn’t matter as long as it gets done.

[TSgt]

Thanks and not baiting at all. ;)

I don’t and would appreciate the education.