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Insanity? The man was a great pope.

The troubles were not with the bishops he appointed, but those whom he intherited. Look at that list again...


38 posted on 11/12/2011 1:18:13 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi; RitaOK
The man was a great pope.

Have you no shame? Your response is no better than that of the rioting Penn State students. Even if Paterno was a great coach, all that credit is lost by his enabling of homo abuse. The same applies to JP2, only much more so.

The troubles were not with the bishops he appointed, but those whom he intherited.

For decades JP2 extolled and defended the homo abuser running the Legionaries of Christ, despite numerous true allegations from victimized former seminarians. It was not until JP2 fell sick that Cardinal Ratzinger was finally able to take action. This is just one bad example among many.

It is wrong to desecrate the institution of sainthood just to whitewash the crimes of a notorious homo abuse enabler. When JP2 appointed his fellow homo abuse enabler, the disgraced Cardinal Bernard Law, to be archpriest of the Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome, JP2 demonstrated that even by that late date, he had not yet repented of his dereliction. It was left to Benedict XVI to acknowledged and apologize for the homo abuse since JP2 never did.

40 posted on 11/12/2011 9:00:25 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: BenKenobi; mas cerveza por favor
Ben, you are dealing with an SSPXer. Do not feed him. The adherents of that schism come and go here. They are intense for a period of time and then evaporate. Only to have others return in their stead. Their purpose is to advertise the crackpot views of their founder the late Marcel LeFebvre who died excommunicated. B-XVI lifted the excommunications imposed by JP II on LeFebvre and his illicitly consecrated bishops Fellay, Holocaust denier and full-fledged crackpot Williamson, de Mallerais whose foul mothed attacks on JP II know no bounds and Gallerata who seems relatively mild by John Paul II as an apparent act of charity towards them but they reciprocate by presuming to instruct B-XVI as to how he must run the Church. If I understand correctly, the excommunicated Marcel LeFebvre's death put him beyond the ability to have his excommunication lifted. The SSPXers are maniacally enraged at JP II above all others because he declared SSPX a schism and excommunicated LeFebvre and the leadership.

Ignore them and they will fade away. They are not the first ecclesiastical revolutionaries to attack Holy Mother the Church and the popes and they won't be the last.

Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia!

Roma locuta, causa finita! God bless you and yours. Blessed John Paul, pray for us and for them.

42 posted on 11/12/2011 10:49:10 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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