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To: marshmallow

The allowance of married clergy was part of the union agreements between Rome and the Orthodox who became Catholics. We are only reclaiming our tradition.

If Rome wants union with the Orthodox a good starting point would be to recognize the self-governance of the Eastern Catholic patriarchates apart from the Roman curia.

Eis polla eti Despota!


8 posted on 11/09/2011 11:46:26 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Mr Rogers

The Melkite Church must restore its autocephaly to be true to itself.


9 posted on 11/09/2011 11:48:04 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Mr Rogers

The Melkite Church must restore its autocephaly to be true to itself.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 11:48:13 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Well, that would cause problems, because these Eastern Rites have always been a part of Rome. They either did not participate or weren’t around at the time of the Schism.

If the Orthodox are willing to accept Petrine supremacy, then we can talk about reordering things in the east. Until then, we shall see.

I have no problem whatsoever with the Eastern rites retaining their traditions in the west.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 11:53:30 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: rzman21

“If Rome wants union with the Orthodox a good starting point would be to recognize the self-governance of the Eastern Catholic patriarchates apart from the Roman curia.”

I used to be EC. My family “doxed” 8 years ago when we got tired of the never-ending stream of “bi-ritual” priests and angry Latins who wanted more post Vatican II smells and bells.

The straw that broke the camel’s back was when the priest and some church members came to my wife (choir director) and demanded she not sing the correct tropar and kontakia (they had other hynmns to sing) and add “and the son” to the creed. She brought up the fact that our agreement to come into communion with Rome specifically stated (among other things immediately ignored by Rome) that the filioque need not be said and that our liturgy would remain unchanged.

Indeed, the agreement REQUIRES Rome to allow married EC priests, with NO stipulation as to the location of the parish.

Not surprisingly, now that we doxed, we get to live our Faith as handed down by the Church fathers without demands of massive changes from Latins.


13 posted on 11/09/2011 12:17:11 PM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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