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To: DetroitRight

I have a health issue that keeps me from eating about anything but oats and most meat. Long story.

Anyway, I’ve been prayed for time without count and have been struggling with dealing with this for years, not accepting it but learning to live with it.

The single biggest contributing factor to the spiritual struggles I’ve had surrounding this have been as a result of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement and its theology.

Nor have I been impressed with the lifestyle and behavior of the majority of the high profile figures within that same movement.

I sure do believe that the gifts are for today, nevertheless, I agree with every point he made.


37 posted on 11/20/2011 12:11:02 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Anyway, I’ve been prayed for time without count and have been struggling with dealing with this for years, not accepting it but learning to live with it. The single biggest contributing factor to the spiritual struggles I’ve had surrounding this have been as a result of the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement and its theology.

I had one misguided charismatic tell my wife her faith or rather lack thereof keeps her in a wheelchair. It took me several years to undo the damage. They mean well but ignore the fact that through our adversities GOD's Grace & power is shown the strongest. He forgot Paul asked three times for a healing {what type not specified} and GOD's answer was no. As well we have too look at ones who faced serious adversity and the fruits their faith produced not by being healed but by accepting it for what it is. GOD has His reasons.

GOD allowed for example Joni Tada to become paralyzed from about C-C-3 or C-4 down at age 16 from a diving accident. Faith? She's very full of faith. But her adversity started her on a ministry that reaches millions of disabled around the world. She's been in the wheelchair about 45 years.

Yes I do believe through prayer many are healed and GOD has His own reasons for those who aren't and it has nothing to do about lack of faith or punishment. The reasons we may not fully understand in this world. BTW the man who told my wife that? About a year later I caught him cheating on his wife.

The preacher he learned it from? Became involved in severe mis-use of church funds as in hundreds of thousands for his own use.

I'm not Pentecostal or Charismatic but I do believe strongly that The Holy Spirit dwells within us and is our guide and teaches us truth as GOD gives to us as we need it. I've seen people speak in tongues although they did not realize it was happening. At was at the alter of a Missionary Baptist church. The congregation was up at the altar praying {smaller rural church}.

39 posted on 11/20/2011 1:16:45 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: metmom

I understand. However, I must be honest. I totally disagree with the notion that somehow the gifts are for today. It is a lie of the devil.

Sorry, how I feel.

Thanks for the welcome. :o)


41 posted on 11/20/2011 1:28:02 AM PST by DetroitRight
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