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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
you may be, i can’t judge you.

anyone who hates the Body of Christ on earth, the Church doesn’t love Jesus and obviously can’t be “in Christ” anyone who knowingly spreads lies and accuses the Church of teachings which it does not hold ( worship of Mary, salvation by works, etc )is an enemy of Jesus Christ and can’t be “in Christ”

everyone needs to examine themselves to see if their faith is genuine or false.

Either baptism saves or it does not.

Why are you now putting conditions on it? What that says is that baptism DOESN'T save anyone. If it was baptism which saved, they'd be saved regardless of what they did or what they thought.

Infants baptized in the Catholic church are considered saved and they don't exercise any faith at all. They just lay there and sleep or cry as the case may be.

So if infants are considered saved by the act of baptism, it is the act itself which saves, independent of the faith of the individual, which the baby does not yet have.

So, in practice, the Catholic church teaches that baptism saves without the necessity of faith on the part of the individual.

74 posted on 11/04/2011 8:49:55 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

it’s hard to believe those that claim to have been Catholic, actually were. the ignorance of the faith is too great, but then again, it’s probably that ignorance of the Faith that caused them to reject it.

read 1 Corinthians 15:1-2.


80 posted on 11/04/2011 8:56:41 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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