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To: HarleyD

the Scriptures do not tell us a specific mode of baptism is required.

the Scriptures do tell us absolutely baptism is required for salvation.

again, what we don’t find is anywhere the Scriptures teaching us baptism is symbolic, and we don’t find the Catholic Faith as evidenced by the Fathers teaching this either.


350 posted on 11/07/2011 4:46:46 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
again, what we don’t find is anywhere the Scriptures teaching us baptism is symbolic,

So are you saying that you must be baptized in the Catholic Church in order to be saved? You do understand this is old teaching put forth by the 4th Lateran Council of 1211. Nowaday Catholics teach that others can be saved even if they aren't baptised in the Church.

Baptism doesn't save you but it is evidence of your salvation. This is what John Gills has to say on the matter which I agree with:

For some reason people don't seem to realize that that reason they are being baptized is because they ALREADY believe in Christ. Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved. It's that simple. Baptism isn't symbolic. (If I used this term it was in error.) It is evidence of our belief and is a profession of our faith.
351 posted on 11/07/2011 6:02:37 PM PST by HarleyD
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