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To: metmom; Judith Anne; boatbums; smvoice; RnMomof7; dartuser

Fail #2

maybe that was too many questions all at ounce, let’s see if i can get an answer to just number 1 to start:

where in the Scriptures was anyone told to be baptized as an act of obedience? i don’t need 3 or 4 instances, get someone provide just one time?

apparently Jesus was concerned whether we would be “obedient” or not, so He set up “water baptism” as a test of that obedience, do i have that right?


302 posted on 11/06/2011 5:13:26 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Matthew 28:18-20 18And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

John 14:15-24 15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

18"I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. 21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him." 22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, "Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?" 23Jesus answered him, "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.

Salvation is not dependent on baptism. There are plenty of examples in Scripture of people who believed and were declared righteous with no mention of baptism being involved: The thief on the cross, Zacchaeus, the tax collector in Luke 18, to name a few.

307 posted on 11/06/2011 6:24:53 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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