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To: metmom
"So, why am I, and other former Catholics, being so criticized for having confidence that we are going to heaven when we die?"

Because judgment is not yours and it defies logic and Scripture for anyone to claim that there nothing they could do to loose Salvation.

201 posted on 11/05/2011 9:46:22 AM PDT by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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To: Natural Law

That’s not an answer.

Does baptism save or not?

It’s a simple yes or no question.

If it saves, I’m good.

If something can negate it, it doesn’t save.


203 posted on 11/05/2011 9:51:49 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
Because judgment is not yours and it defies logic and Scripture for anyone to claim that there nothing they could do to loose Salvation.

The judgment is God's and already declared. I just believe it and for that am castigated. The chutzpah, to think that someone actually takes God at His word and believes what He already declared.

John 10:27-29 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

Call Jesus a liar if you wish. I'm not putting myself in that position.

204 posted on 11/05/2011 9:55:53 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
Because judgment is not yours and it defies logic and Scripture for anyone to claim that there nothing they could do to loose Salvation.

Of course it defies a natural man's logic...How do you guys expect to understand the spiritual things of God by spending your lives learning human philosophy???

And of course it does not defy scripture...

240 posted on 11/05/2011 1:22:10 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Natural Law; metmom
Because judgment is not yours and it defies logic and Scripture for anyone to claim that there nothing they could do to loose Salvation.


John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: :28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. :29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. :30 I and my Father are one.



266 posted on 11/05/2011 8:52:30 PM PDT by Lera
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