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To: fatboy
Simple question really but... Why are catholics so obsessed with getting protestants to quit their church and join theirs?

As it has been since the fall of adam, it is the goal of carnal man to control religious doctrine rather than just taking YHVH at His Word. By separating that of old and calling it just that “old”, “outdated” & “only for Jews”, Christendom created their ‘new’ religious dogma. As it has always been, the one that controls the religious dogma of the ‘new’ is the one that holds the power over the religious class.

It existed at the time of Messiah via the House of Shammai & the House of Hillel. The House of Shammai was in control and were killing members of the House of Hillel for following Torah rather than the dogma(oral traditions) of Shammai. It was the House of Shammai that covertly worked to kill Messiah not realizing that his death was not of their control but in under the control of the Creator who was controling them via their ignorance of the prophecy of Messiah as they held their religious dogma as having higher authority than that of the Creator. The RCC is Christendom's House of Shammai and while they do not promote death, they do seek to regain control over all religious dogma.

6 posted on 11/03/2011 7:56:16 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Is that true? Could you send me a link to that, please?


24 posted on 11/03/2011 9:12:21 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: patlin
patlin, your story is interesting and plausible. As for the details, first paragraph since I'm dispensational I take the whole Bible seriously and think it unfortunate the first 3/4 of the Word is considered “Old”.

Moving on though, you set up this scenario of a power struggle Shammai/Hillel, but according to my Bible Jesus had very few friends (Jew or Gentile) at the end. If I say that sinful man nailed Jesus to the cross, I'm on solid Biblical ground. If I say it was an intermurial rivalry, I have to stray from the Scriptures.

Going back to my question asking why Catholics are so obsessed with regaining that which was lost in 1517. It is interesting the answers catholics themselves give. It is also interesting how they (catholics) react when say one of the protestant mainlines decide to have a friendly chat with Rome. I say this in that the small percentage of protestants who are truly Biblical in living their faith have the one thing catholics and liberal protestants will never have.

My wife's great aunt is 93 years old which means in her case she was sprinkled by a Roman Catholic priest 93 years ago, she has put in literally countless hours of labor for her church and is leaving her estate to (I think) the Sisters of Mercy and yet she is not in any way, shape or form prepared for that great getting up day. This says more to me about the RCC than any well written argument or counterargument.

67 posted on 11/03/2011 11:43:34 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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