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To: ReformationFan

“Disagreeing with Mormon doctrine and theology is not the same as hating Mormon people.”

Hmmmm. The Rev Jeffress and his flock like to condemn Mormons to hell which I think is rather hateful. I wish I had a buck for every time I have been condemned to hell on this site. I’d be rich.

Meanwhile, Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I look to Him for my salvation and judgement. Amen.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 8:43:54 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

It doesn’t sound to me like Jeffress wants Mormons to go to hell. Sounds to me more like he wants them to turn away from their false religion and to the true Jesus found in the Bible so that they will end up in heaven instead. It’s not loving to tell someone they’re about to drink milk when you know they’re about to drink poison instead.


16 posted on 11/03/2011 9:12:30 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Saundra Duffy; ReformationFan

Sandy you will go to hell with your eyes wide open if you wish.
No one can condemn you there, a soul goes with their eyes wide opened.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 9:18:23 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Saundra Duffy; ReformationFan
Meanwhile, Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I look to Him for my salvation and judgement. Amen.

“Elder Boyd K. Packer of the Council of the Twelve gave the following illustration to show how Christ’s atonement makes it possible to be saved from sin if we do our part. ‘Let me tell you a story.… There once was a man who.…incurred a great debt.…the day came, and the contract fell due. The debt had not been fully paid. His creditor appeared and demanded payment in full.… The debtor had a friend. He came to help.…He stepped between them, faced the creditor, and made this offer. ‘I will pay the debt if you will free the debtor from his contract so that he may keep his possessions and not go to prison.’…And so the creditor agreed. The mediator turned then to the debtor. ‘If I pay your debt, will you accept me as your creditor?’ ‘Oh yes, yes,’ cried the debtor. ‘You saved me from prison and show mercy to me.’ ‘Then,’ said the benefactor, ‘you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible.” —Gospel Principles, 1992ed, pp. 75, 77

“There is one crucial test of repentance. This is abandonment of the sin….The saving power does not extend to him who merely wants to change his life.…Nor is repentance complete when one merely tries to abandon sin....To ‘try’ is weak. To ‘do the best I can’ is not strong. We must always do better than we can....” —The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 163-165

“And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.” —Doctrine and Covenants, Section 82:7

Really now - How can the Jesusof Mormonism promise you forgiveness when he holds you accountable for every sin you repeatedly commit?

“This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us. In his Sermon on the Mount he made the command to all men: ‘Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.’ (Matt. 5:48) Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord. He is just and wise and kind. He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal.”—The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 208-209

So really SD - where is your mormon Jesus in all of this huh? Mormon salvation depends upon the works of man - not the work of Christ.

Trusting in and following a fictitious Christ will result in a fictitious salvation, no matter how sincere we may be.

20 posted on 11/04/2011 8:24:31 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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