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To: Mr Rogers

there is only one authority on earth that can definitively state what the canon is and it has this authority because it received it directly from Jesus as recorded in Matthew 28. that authority is the Catholic Church, it alone is the pillar of truth and it alone has been promised the Holy Spirit to lead it to all truth.

since you state i know nothing about the baptists, enlighten me, where were the baptists in the 2nd century? who were it’s church fathers? what about the 3rd century? 4th? 5th? etc etc til the 16th. let’s see what you know about them.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 8:20:13 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
there is only one authority on earth that can definitively state what the canon is and it has this authority because it received it directly from Jesus as recorded in Matthew 28. that authority is the Catholic Church, it alone is the pillar of truth and it alone has been promised the Holy Spirit to lead it to all truth

Can you please cite Scripture for that statement where YHVH gave authority over HIS doctrine to the Catholic church?

42 posted on 11/01/2011 8:25:35 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“there is only one authority on earth that can definitively state what the canon is and it has this authority because it received it directly from Jesus as recorded in Matthew 28. that authority is the Catholic Church, it alone is the pillar of truth and it alone has been promised the Holy Spirit to lead it to all truth.”

Well, of course if I was a Roman Catholic, I’d agree with you. But since Roman Catholics are a minority of Christianity, I guess I’ll feel free to disagree that the Pope rules over all Christendom.

Lots of folks have rejected Papal authority and many of the Catholic doctrines from the beginning. Baptists as an organized body appeared around 1600, holding that scripture ruled over the church for matters of doctrine - which was NOT a new doctrine!

And thus we rejected doctrines long taught by the Roman Catholics, such as Purgatory.


44 posted on 11/01/2011 8:25:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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The 'baptists' were those Christians who rejected the false church traditions and uniting of church and state.

They might not have been called 'baptists' but they held to many of the same doctrines.

The Roman Catholic Church is a false church that married the world.

The protestant churches aren't much better, since they kept many of the false traditons that are found in the RCC, such as infant baptism.

140 posted on 11/02/2011 1:54:57 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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