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To: Mr Rogers

there is only ONE baptism, read Ephesians.

no where in the NT does it mention “water baptism”, this is a Baptist invention.
no where does the NT mention “Holy Spirit baptism”, this is a Baptist invention.
the NT only mentions “baptism”, the one baptism in Ephesians. the NT teaches baptism is for the remission of sins and receiving the Holy Spirit. very clear and the Church has taught this for 2,000 years starting with the Apostles all the way til the present day.
where does the NT talk about “water baptism signifying it in public”? chapter and verse please?

the blessed bread in the MASS is a participation in the Body of Christ. the bread in a baptist service is just bread.

the Mass is Calvary made present. One sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins.

the problem is some have rejected orthodox Christian Faith for a new gospel, first introduced 16 centuries after the Church received authority from Jesus to make disciples by baptizing them and teaching them.

i look forward for the NT verses talking about water baptism, Holy Spirit baptism and that baptism is a public display of the salvation that has already occurred.


256 posted on 11/02/2011 1:57:54 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Mat 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Mar 1:8 I have baptized you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

Luk 3:16 John answered them all, saying, “I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Jhn 1:33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’

Act 1:5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Act 5:32 And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”

Act 9:17 So Ananias departed and entered the house. And laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road by which you came has sent me so that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”

Act 10:45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

Act 10:47 “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”

Act 11:15 As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning.

Act 11:16 And I remembered the word of the Lord, how he said, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’

Act 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,

Rom 5:5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit

Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Tts 3:5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit

We also read:

“Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples)” - John 4

Interesting. The disciples of Jesus baptized with water...but Jesus Himself did not. Ever wonder why?


266 posted on 11/02/2011 2:13:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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