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To: BenKenobi
"You cannot tear the two apart. When you do, you get homosexuality"

Okay, no one that I am aware of here advocated homosexuality. Least of all me. I said that the Presbyterian cult that honored these folks was off the reservation by a mile. If you are implying, however, that anyone who thought sex between a husband and wife could be for enjoyment was headed for the same homosexual-loving place as this screwy organization, I take exception.

Paul clearly advocated that husbands of Corinth stop denying their wives the enjoyment of their bodies and "...fulfill his marital duty to his wife" and ditto. And, this should be a regular experience except for a short time by mutual consent,. But, then be back, "...together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." I Cor. 7:1ff. I find nothing here with regard to conceiving children each time, nor that the pure pleasure of it would lead to homosexuality.

91 posted on 10/26/2011 4:23:12 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

” anyone who thought sex between a husband and wife could be for enjoyment was headed for the same homosexual-loving place as this screwy organization, I take exception”.

Again. This is the fourth time, that my argument has been deliberately misstated.

I explicitly said that part, not all of sex, part of what makes sex what it is, is the ability to procreate. I did not say all. Of course, pleasure is important too. But the whole reason that God made you male and female in the first place, is so that sex would be procreative.

If sex is only for pleasure than it doesn’t matter if it’s between men and women, or men and men or women and women. That is my point.

This door was opened at Lambeth, the same folks who were the first to start trying to marry men with men and women with women, were the first to adopt contraception.

“Paul clearly advocated that husbands of Corinth stop denying their wives the enjoyment of their bodies and “...fulfill his marital duty to his wife” and ditto.”

Absolutely. But rather than truly obey what he was saying, you’d rather contracept so you can obey without having to sacrifice. That’s the problem.

“I find nothing here with regard to conceiving children each time”

Because that is up to God. Where does it say that you are permitted to used condoms and to mutilate yourself such that you would be sterile?

Are you arguing that anything that is not explicitly prohibited is permitted?


92 posted on 10/26/2011 4:32:24 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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