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To: Judith Anne
Hello, you apparently missed the first six words of NL’s post: “Theological purging is a common theme.”

Nope...Didn't miss a thing... Of course the bible talks about the purging of the flesh, but for what purpose???

We as Christians are not in the flesh...

600 posted on 10/27/2011 9:44:57 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

Do you know the meaning of the phrase “theologicsl putging”?


602 posted on 10/27/2011 9:49:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of god, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death)
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To: Iscool

That we are in the Spirit is true, as that we are seated together in heaven, (Eph. 2:6) but that does mean we have not a flesh to crucify by walking in the Spirit, overcoming evil with good, and i do not think you were denying this.

“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1)

The dividing issue with purgatory is not that were are not to crucify the flesh by setting our affection on things above, which i fall short in, and do better some days than others (do i love God more than food, etc., and whatever is our prime object of heart affection and or source of security is our god), or that holiness must be an attribute of saving faith, but that we see in Scripture this sanctification either taking place on earth - which is where we are tested, as Christ was - or not at all, and you either die with saving faith (which is what makes us accepted in the Beloved, thus motivating and enabling holiness) or we do not.

The texts which clearly refer to the postmortem place of believers only shows them going to be with the Lord at death, and at the day of Christ being rewarded for their service.

In contrast, the doctrine of purgatory has believers undergoing purgation for sin upon death, and being rewarded with entrance into glory after that process, which some posit can take thousands of years.

This has been argued out much in the posts linked to in post 518 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2796560/posts?page=518#518

“Gracious is the Lord, and righteous; yea, our God is merciful.” (Ps. 116:5)

“To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” (Rm. 3:26)

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus


620 posted on 10/27/2011 11:44:35 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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