It is fine to change topic and chat around, but not as a debate tactic. Typically, a professional Protestant, unable to justify his positions from the scripture, will switch the conversatin to something else in order to appear holding his ground. These tricks should be detected and thwarted.
Annalex, unless you have mistaken my post for that of someone else, this is plain arrogance. My response to yours was nether pointless or impertinent. You disallowed the authority of the comments of the NAB and thus impugned the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, inferring the RC Bishops who granted the stamps were in league with the enemy, and invoked the CCC as authoritative, and thus i first addressed the issue of authority, whether the catechism could itself contain errors, and how sure was it, which is pertinent in defining 1Cor. 3 as supporting purgatory.
I next addressed the manner in which the CCC invoked 1Cor. 3, in direct response to your invocation of it. The rest of my post was also direct responses to yours, including your ad lib in damning Protestants.
And all you posted in response was to reduce Purgatory to “purification preceding the entry into Heaven,” for some, (“That is all the Purgatory is”), while as i have argued, that it is only one aspect needed to make 1Cor. 3 refer to being a purification commencing at death in order to enter heaven.
And as for who has evidenced they are “unable to justify his positions from the scripture” and using damage control tactics, i will gladly let the reader be the judge of that. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Rather a stark difference on who backs up with scripture isn’t there. It’s obvious that the Catholics truly do put the RCC above scripture.
Hmmm, who would that be? The non-Catholics who virtually always post Scripture and appeal to that as their final authority in all things spiritual?
Or the Catholics who virtually always post from the Church fathers and the CCC and appeal to *tradition* (key in Fiddler on the Roof music) and the magisterium for their final authority?
“unable to justify his positions from the scripture”?
B.
Definitely B.
I know, but the issue was consuming the whole conversation, and the fact that the Catechism sees the scripture in question as a reference to the Purgatory closes the matter. On a thread about internal Catholic issues of authority it would have been a meaningful conversation but not here.
Yes, these 1-11 are my posts and I stand by all of them. Observe, too, that I keep referring to the scripture while you are building free-satnding constructs that deviate from the scripture in focus. That I find typical of Protestant disinterest in discussing the scripture unless it, on occasion, fits their theological positions.
all you posted in response was to reduce Purgatory to “purification preceding the entry into Heaven,” for some, (“That is all the Purgatory is”), while as i have argued, that it is only one aspect needed to make 1Cor. 3 refer to being a purification commencing at death in order to enter heaven.
If I omitted "at death in order to enter heaven", that was inadvertent. As my previous post should have shown, if nothing I posted before, 1 Cor. 3 refers both to a necessity of purification and the fact that is is occuring at the point of death, when the lifelong work of the believer is complete.