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To: Iscool; D-fendr
The sin of presuming that when Christ said we could KNOW we have eternal life, that He meant it? And "easy believerism"..that's a joke. There is nothing "easy" about attempting to show unbelievers that salvation is a free gift from God. That there is nothing a person can do to earn it. That it is God who justifies the ungodly. That we are sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise unto that day. That although our outward man perishes, our inward man is renewed day by day. That we are to put no confidence in the outward man. That we are, at this moment, spiritually seated in heavenly places in Christ. That we are dead, and our life is hid with Christ in God. That we are promised by God to be saved from His wrath. That we are new creatures.

No. The "easy believerism" is to just "say this", "do that", "don't do the other", and voila'! God smiles and gives you a thumbs up on your good efforts.

471 posted on 10/26/2011 8:30:15 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: smvoice
The "easy believerism" is to just "say this", "do that", "don't do the other", and voila'!

No, easy believerism is just believe this statement and you'll go to heaven.

Similar to; If you believe there are green unicorns, I'll give you a million dollars. This is only a problem if you don't think I'll really pay up.

If, instead, I said: If you really believe in green unicorns, you'll walk into the desert without water and wait for one to give you a ride out.

As we see in scripture, believing in Jesus Christ is much more than simple intellectual assent and much more than thinking only about yourself, which is what I'm referring to as "easy believerism."

491 posted on 10/26/2011 10:59:43 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice; Iscool; D-fendr

Nor is it easy to completely trust God and stop trying to add our own good works to the mix to impress Him, or please Him or to appease Him, or whatever.

We KNOW we’re sinners and that wrong doing deserves justice. That’s where guilt comes in. All our works are attempt to assuage our guilt, which they cannot do. But it sure feels good to think that we’ve done something to earn or deserve some forgiveness for the wrong we’ve done. Human nature just can’t seem t help trying anyway when all that’s required is to throw ourselves on the mercy of the court.

What adding works is like doing is insisting on paying the penalty for a crime that you’ve been pardoned for. If you got a speeding ticket which was then forgiven, would you still insist on paying it anyway and getting the points on your license and hiking up your insurance?

Or would you go do some unrelated to the crime volunteer work to pay it off which it wouldn’t because it’s not the appropriate penalty for the crime?


494 posted on 10/26/2011 1:02:33 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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